The Doctor Who/Torchwood Thread

11eleven11 said:
I loved Tennant a lot, but I also loved Amy and I don't think Amy/Rory could have happened with the tenth doctor. I don't think he could have watched her be with someone else the way the eleventh doctor did, given that he'd already lost Rose too. The tenth doctor would've ended up alone...maybe that's how they end each doctor's term, once they'd be left alone it's time for a new guy.

I want to see someone a bit different for 12. Mean, moody, darker maybe. 9th, 10th and 11th have all been extremely likeable(9th&11th were growers, imho). Especially given that during the 11th doctor's time, he's become a bit more self aware, it seems time for a bit more introspection? I dunno though, camp and hyper seems to be the theme, but I don't think they can take that much further. A non-human companion would be interesting too, but probably less workable.

Admittedly, I also want to see mean and moody for my own personal gratification, but stillllllll. :p

'The God Complex' is my favourite of this series, mainly for this quote:
"I took you with me because I was vain. Because I wanted to be adored."
ahh, I died a little inside. If it'd been Tennant delivering those lines, I'd have cried xD
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And I guess that's my problem with Matt Smith. He's quite alien, and I'm sorta used to him, but he does not have the depth or the acting chops that David Tennant has (well, seriously, having seen a lot of his other work, damned few actors have his range).

I think Christopher Eccleston could have made 9 quite dark - he's capable of that and didn't always seem terribly fond of humans. I think Tennant could have gone darker if the material had called for it - after all, his clone was capable of genocide.
 
Eye of Ra said:
Ha! I knew those miniature people piloting the robot people suits would play a big role in the finale.


Yes and just who is the Doctor really? Personally I've always had my suspicions that he's of the bloodline of Rassilon the Great, the creator of the whole Time Lord society and he's been running away from having to fufill his role as hereditary leader of the Time Lords. Now he has guilt added to the mix since he feels responsible for the destruction of his race, so he keeps running.
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Writers were going to explore that question with the 7th Doctor before the classic series went off the air. If anyone ever saw the "Remembrance of the Daleks", the 7th Doctor was referring to early Time Lord history, and he let slip the word "we" as if he was actually present during the events he was describing. The 7th Doctor also referred to himself as being "more than just a Time Lord". Perhaps that is also where the 10th Doctor went a little nuts and called himself the "Time Lord Victorious" during "Water of Mars".

In the original onscreen Time Lord mythology, it was three Time Lords that founded their society. They were Rassilon, Omega (I miss that lunatic), and someone known only as "The Other". The Other was some early incarnation of the Doctor (not Hartnell). The Other was also the actual grandfather of Susan.

I really liked the season finale. Like last year's finale, they filled in all the gaps from previous stories, even the first meeting between River & the 10th Doctor.

I wonder the fall of the 11th will entail?

I can't wait until the next season starts.
 
samwilson75 said:
Writers were going to explore that question with the 7th Doctor before the classic series went off the air. If anyone ever saw the "Remembrance of the Daleks", the 7th Doctor was referring to early Time Lord history, and he let slip the word "we" as if he was actually present during the events he was describing. The 7th Doctor also referred to himself as being "more than just a Time Lord". Perhaps that is also where the 10th Doctor went a little nuts and called himself the "Time Lord Victorious" during "Water of Mars".

In the original onscreen Time Lord mythology, it was three Time Lords that founded their society. They were Rassilon, Omega (I miss that lunatic), and someone known only as "The Other". The Other was some early incarnation of the Doctor (not Hartnell). The Other was also the actual grandfather of Susan.

I really liked the season finale. Like last year's finale, they filled in all the gaps from previous stories, even the first meeting between River & the 10th Doctor.

I wonder the fall of the 11th will entail?

I can't wait until the next season starts.
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I recall during the final classic series McCoy era run how they kept throwing out little clues to hint that the Doctor was more than an average Time Lord. But one anyone watching the series for any amount of time can gather he's obviously more than your average Time Lord, considering that he has chosen the title of "the Doctor" for himself. Clearly intellegence wise he has to be someone of importance even in Time Lord society.

I lean toward him being someone of Rassilon's bloodline due to the final Tennant episode and brief the interactions that took place between the Doctor and the unnamed Time Lady who was among the Time Lords. She seemed very personal in her interactions with both the Doctor and Rassilon almost sort of mother to son (the Doctor) and wife to husband (Rassilon). Just my little observation on it is all. Could be nothing more than a red herring when all is said and done if it ever comes to it.
 
Eye of Ra said:
I recall during the final classic series McCoy era run how they kept throwing out little clues to hint that the Doctor was more than an average Time Lord. But one anyone watching the series for any amount of time can gather he's obviously more than your average Time Lord, considering that he has chosen the title of "the Doctor" for himself. Clearly intellegence wise he has to be someone of importance even in Time Lord society.

I lean toward him being someone of Rassilon's bloodline due to the final Tennant episode and brief the interactions that took place between the Doctor and the unnamed Time Lady who was among the Time Lords. She seemed very personal in her interactions with both the Doctor and Rassilon almost sort of mother to son (the Doctor) and wife to husband (Rassilon). Just my little observation on it is all. Could be nothing more than a red herring when all is said and done if it ever comes to it.
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I got that aswell, I think the woman in the "weeping angel stance" is the Doctor's mother.

There is strong indication that The Doctor may be The Other, when Madame Pomfrey reads The Doctor's mind in "Girl in the Fireplace" she says to him that his name is more than just a secret. The Doctor was shocked and scared which doesn't happen too often.
 
samwilson75 said:
In the original onscreen Time Lord mythology, it was three Time Lords that founded their society. They were Rassilon, Omega (I miss that lunatic), and someone known only as "The Other". The Other was some early incarnation of the Doctor (not Hartnell). The Other was also the actual grandfather of Susan.
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Caerdydd said:
There is strong indication that The Doctor may be The Other, when Madame Pomfrey reads The Doctor's mind in "Girl in the Fireplace" she says to him that his name is more than just a secret. The Doctor was shocked and scared which doesn't happen too often.
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I'll concede that the Doctor may be The Other, but still say he may be of the bloodline of Rassilon. Since the Time Lords do not seem to have surnames, but like to adapt titles (The Doctor, The Master, The Rani, The Valeyard) what's to say that the title of The Other does not only refer to him being part of this triumvirate of founding Time Lords, but also that he is also related to Rassilon i.e. a younger brother or a son perhaps? Just a theory though.
 
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