Trayvon Martin's Murder

nocturnalmission said:
... They had the tapes with the "cry for help" in the background that Zimmerman claims to be his voice... They never did a voice analysis and accepted his word as gospel....

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Speaking of voice analysis, CNN did one on the "fucking coon" comment, and the experts said it's "inconclusive and unlcear". Hmmm, I have ok hearing and I can hear it pretty clear. I'm sure Zimmerman will say he said "cunt" if it prevails.. Even ABC were reall wishy-washy on it...I don't think it's going to factor much, even though it absolutely should.
 
Bliss said:
Here's the thing though, if you listen to the 911 call, the things Zimmerman is saying about Tray, the way he willfully lies and falsely portrays him, to a dispatcher Tray sounds like a crazed drugged-out, menacing, "something" carrying, about-to-commit-a-crime took-off running-cause-he-was-guilty, criminal. (ironic huh, that the real and only menacing criminal was actually Zimmerman himself)....A cop arriving on the scene could easily be swayed to believe that Zimmerman just killed a criminal who assaulted him. Particularly since he kept exclaiming "self defense!" holding a bloody nose and head gash.

It wasn't until his family insisted their son was just an innocent kid, were they forced to even "consider" an innocent teen might have been killed. Now of course they've realized a defenseless, innocent teen was actually murdered - by a wild cowboy no less - and they are fucking reeling.
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:smt023

I just hope that true justice is served and that this vigilante gets a taste of wild west bronco riding behind bars... He won't have a gun then and he really will cry out for help when his booty is being schooled and tamed...
 
nocturnalmission said:
:smt023

I just hope that true justice is served and that this vigilante gets a taste of wild west bronco riding behind bars... He won't have a gun then and he really will cry out for help when his booty is being schooled and tamed...
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Now that made me smile for the first time in a while. :smt023
 
Bliss said:
Here's the thing though, if you listen to the 911 call, the things Zimmerman is saying about Tray, the way he willfully lies and falsely portrays him, to a dispatcher Tray sounds like a crazed drugged-out, menacing, "something" carrying, about-to-commit-a-crime took-off running-cause-he-was-guilty, criminal. (ironic huh, that the real and only menacing criminal was actually Zimmerman himself)....A cop arriving on the scene could easily be swayed to believe that Zimmerman just killed a criminal who assaulted him. Particularly since he kept exclaiming "self defense!" holding a bloody nose and head gash.

It wasn't until his family insisted their son was just an innocent kid, were they forced to even "consider" an innocent teen might have been killed. Now of course they've realized a defenseless, innocent teen was actually murdered - by a wild cowboy no less - and they are fucking reeling.
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But what boggles my mind is that he got to go home after that. I seriously don't get how they released him without a proper investigation. They just took his word for it. I've never seen that in a movie let alone real life
 
Bliss said:
Speaking of voice analysis, CNN did one on the "fucking coon" comment, and the experts said it's "inconclusive and unlcear". Hmmm, I have ok hearing and I can hear it pretty clear. I'm sure Zimmerman will say he said "cunt" if it prevails.. Even ABC were reall wishy-washy on it...I don't think it's going to factor much, even though it absolutely should.
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I agree that the purported slur is pretty clear to me just as news crews claim it's "unclear"... but the cry for help on the tapes posted on the net was clearly audible enough for "experts" to compare to Zimmerman's own voice pattern, diction, etc... Sanford PD may not have the capability but they share law enforcement resources with state and federal bodies that could easily support his claim of yelling for help.... If he yelled at all...

I didn't expect news agencies to weigh in on the "slur or not" detail conclusively. They can't even agree on whether to call Zimmerman white or hispanic.... I'm sure they will make the distinction if more evidence proves he was out of control and motivated by hate...
 
nocturnalmission said:
I agree that the purported slur is pretty clear to me just as news crews claim it's "unclear"... but the cry for help on the tapes posted on the net was clearly audible enough for "experts" to compare to Zimmerman's own voice pattern, diction, etc... Sanford PD may not have the capability but they share law enforcement resources with state and federal bodies that could easily support his claim of yelling for help.... If he yelled at all...

I didn't expect news agencies to weigh in on the "slur or not" detail conclusively. They can't even agree on whether to call Zimmerman white or hispanic.... I'm sure they will make the distinction if more evidence proves he was out of control and motivated by hate...
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Well noted!

Makes you wonder though, who gut-wrenchingly wails for help like that...for that long.....
if you have a gun.

...And are 100 pounds heavier....
..And 10 years more mature....

...And well-trained to use a gun..(because you know he's got that Permit framed right above his bed and the local Gun Range on speed-dial.)
 
blk4ww said:
Black people (men) we gotta let young black boys know what's happening and what they're dealing with out here. Young black men are absolute prey for crazy fucks. Us (meaning us that marry white women) we like to sing Kumbayah and act like nothing is is ok out here. That's what we are taught growing up but white people (not all) know racial epithets by age 5. They get taught about race at an early age. See we out here bullshitting and playing. We got a black president, white people feel like they're numbers are dwindling, they can't find jobs now etc so there for hate groups are getting bigger. Militia groups are getting better. Neo Nazis are getting bigger. While we are out here singing Kumbayah everythings ok these folks are not playing. Our fucking around let's the Zimmermans of the world think they can do and get away with shit like this. I don't have kids but I sit with my nephews all the time and let them know what's happening here. Plz black men here do the same. White women too. Don't think it will make white people look bad. Let your biracial kids know what's happening out here.
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Trust no one, stay alert, stay alive
 
nocturnalmission said:
I agree that the purported slur is pretty clear to me just as news crews claim it's "unclear"... but the cry for help on the tapes posted on the net was clearly audible enough for "experts" to compare to Zimmerman's own voice pattern, diction, etc... Sanford PD may not have the capability but they share law enforcement resources with state and federal bodies that could easily support his claim of yelling for help.... If he yelled at all...

I didn't expect news agencies to weigh in on the "slur or not" detail conclusively. They can't even agree on whether to call Zimmerman white or hispanic.... I'm sure they will make the distinction if more evidence proves he was out of control and motivated by hate...
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I watched his parents' interview with Matt Lauer on Today show which is online now. They seem to refer to another part of the call and not that.

The Dark Knight said:
This was an amazing story guys. Please post on fb if you get a chance. Even better are the comments. Amazed by all the reasonable white people out there.
http://globalgrind.com/news/michael...immerman-race-sanford-florida-photos-pictures
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Very good article.

Bliss said:
Interesting: I just caught the tail end on a radio news blurb that the Sanford Mayor is considering firing the Police Chief after the investigation is complete.
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I think the pressure is on. I don't see how he can keep his job he is a racist and screwup. If he won't do his job fairly, I'm sure someone else will.

More pressure ....a March in NYC yesterday with pretty good turnout. I think they are starting to realize people aren't going to shut up.

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nocturnalmission said:
JordanC said:
I watched his parents' interview with Matt Lauer on Today show which is online now. They seem to refer to another part of the call and not that.

The Sanford PD took their time releasing some of 911 calls made that night, but several news organizations reported on a call Zimmerman made where he referred to Treyvon negatively to the dispatcher...

Here's one such report:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/trayvon-martin-911-tape-racial-slur_n_1368905.html
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The parents/their attorney seem to be unaware of that part. They said they have had the tapes.
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JordanC said:
I watched his parents' interview with Matt Lauer on Today show which is online now. They seem to refer to another part of the call and not that.



Very good article.



I think the pressure is on. I don't see how he can keep his job he is a racist and screwup. If he won't do his job fairly, I'm sure someone else will.

More pressure ....a March in NYC yesterday with pretty good turnout. I think they are starting to realize people aren't going to shut up.

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This is heartening to see

Fl cops may not care..but ppl do.
 
Alinoa said:
This is heartening to see

Fl cops may not care..but ppl do.
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Im happy to see white people in on it too.

1 reason I believe they are doing it is because it is just outright wrong. they know seeing that blacks were just making up shit.

also they know that apathy to injustice will have injustice knocking at their door. it must stop for the sake of everyone. its not right
 
to all the white people out there...here is a message. you are not to shoulder the weight of stupidity of one person from your race .....it's not your doing. what should be done is fair justice for all
 
goodlove said:
to all the white people out there...here is a message. you are not to shoulder the weight of stupidity of one person from your race .....it's not your doing. what should be done is fair justice for all
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I agree. That's what is done to us on a daily basis. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Sometimes i wish everyone did then maybe this shit would stop all together.
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goodlove said:
like I stated in the end ...fair justice for all.....but I also see what you mean. if they felt the burden then people would be more sensitive about taking care of a bad situation
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TDK, I know what you mean. It's so damned frustrating to have to deal with that all the time. If I see one more person move to the side of the aisle or clutch their purse in the elevator or whatever... it's enough to make you scream.
 
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