TRUMP Thread

Wow, you really believe things are that cut and dry politically? I am one, and have known, plenty of liberal business owners who are straight up assholes when it come to running their companies.

You need to get out more and quit sippin' that Faux News Kool-ade. Being liberal is not the antithesis of being a successful business owner. Seriously, you're a smart girl, but you're being mythic-ally simplistic when the reality of the situation is much more nuanced.

Stop believing those right wing fabrications just because it feels good to you. Deal in facts not rhetoric.

And, if the right really wanted to do something about illegals, they'd crack down on the companies hiring them. It'd be a lot cheaper and more effective. But, they won't tell you that because business is their rapid fan base. They'll just throw out the red meat about how the people themselves are the problem while never mentioning the entity that hires them. And , of course, non-thinking, non-reasoning everyday folk take that as gospel because they can't, and even worse, refuse to see the broader picture much less the issue in it's entirety.

It's dog whistle politics in all it's glory and the willfully ignorant masses, who seek to satiate their thirst for simple solutions, come running like ... well ...dogs.

Woof, woof, mutha fucka's. Woof, woof.

 

Yeah, you need to get out more yourself.

Now, it would behoove you to read the whole thread so you UNDERSTAND what has been discussed, that way your day late, dollar short self can stop rehashing shit we have already covered.
As a matter of fact, I already answered a similar point that you just droned on about here, Back on page 26 - v v v

 

So, then you agree with me. Great. See, I knew you were a smart girl.

But, you're still carrying that right wing belief that lefties are anti business or aren't really liberals if they run a business.

 

Yes, l agree with you...l actually even thought that as l read your long post.
And we contributing in this discussion have all pretty much agreed on that.
We all know what's up.

I did though get some flack from AB and Beasty for suggesting (and showing a cpl examples) that Democrat Buffet is/was ruthless in bizness! No such thing as party politics in the business world. We know everyone on either side has to be, to become hugely profitable. *Only a rare few practice what they preach.*
I hate it, but respect that it exists. Would love to change it...especially in big ag industry. I'd go to war to clean that up. (Not oil)

 

Then i apologize for putting u in the mix cause it looked as though u was cosigning that bs.

 

While I detest Donald Trump, George Lopez is an a-hole as well. He exaggerates the hell out of his pseudo-vato shtick. I laughed occasionally at his sitcom, but he's not my cup of tea. And when people say "puto", although it means a male prostitute, it is usually said, not to call a guy technically a homosexual, but more like in the neighborhood when a guy would call another guy a "punk-ass motherfucker". Although, Mexicans use words differently than we do, so I'm not 100% on that one.

 

No I wasn't.

And If you read closely to what Archman posted, he wasn't either. He offered his interpretation of Trump's comments, without disrespect to veterans. Arch is the last person who would do that to veterans -- if anything, he always speaks highly of them.
We are mature enough that while having discussions and debates about hot topics, offering to clarify a point of view or a belief should not be met with accusations of supporting what is clarified.

Appreciate the apology.

 

meet the fockers ?

Shhheeettt.

What is in bold?

What does that have to do with vets?


That dude is surely trying to qualify that bs statement . Then to infer that we should be happy or give him a pass cause he donated money fuck that.

Thats a serious slap in the face in that we are for sale.

Wtf?

Also to ignore what he said "i dont like those eho got captured."

Those are veterans. Those are military men.

This mofo is going to piss on my shoes and say it raining. Are u kidding me?

Just man up to the fact that trump pidsed on vets.Teres no discussion . Dont try that bs.

 

Appreciate the clarification. Obviously, The Advocate read more into it than what he meant, because they are gay. Calling someone the F word to insult doesn't always mean you actually think they are homosexual.
In Greek Language, we have the official word Omofylófilos, then we have the slang word, Pousti, the latter intended to insult.

 

Piers, a favorite of the Left, weighs in...

I'm sorry but Donald Trump is winning BECAUSE he never says sorry



By Piers Morgan

It is a good rule in life never to apologize,’ said the great English author P.G. Wodehouse. ‘The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.’

I think of this advice whenever I think about Donald Trump; a man for whom the words ‘I’m sorry’ are as unthinkable in his personal lexicon as ‘I surrender’ or ‘I’m broke’.

When Trump first entered the GOP candidate race, I predicted he would electrify the U.S. election and I warned his rivals they would underestimate him at their peril.

Here we are, four weeks later, and he’s topping the Republican polls.

Not just by a small margin, but by a gigantic Trump-ego-sized margin.

You can mock him, taunt him, berate him, but you can’t ignore him.

America is currently in the fevered grip of Trump mania and if you want to know why, then look no further than his point blank refusal to apologise to anyone for anything.

Every other politician, business leader or celebrity I know would have immediately, shame-facedly backtracked after he outrageously suggested that all Mexican illegal immigrants were ‘rapists’.

Not Trump.

Instead, he doubled-down on his comments, swiftly turned them into a wider national debate on the undeniably important issue of illegal immigration in the United States, and insisted he’d win the Latino vote at the election.

You don’t have to agree with him to recognise that this was a master-class in how to turn a potentially overwhelming, campaign-ending negative into a vote-winning positive.

Trump deployed the same tactic when he said Senator John McCain wasn’t a real war hero because he got captured. (Although he qualified this in the same sentence by saying he might be, he wasn’t sure…and then clearly said McCain WAS a hero, several times)

Daring to question the heroism of a man who by any yardstick is a true American war hero was an extraordinarily inflammatory thing to even imply.
I know John McCain well, and respect him enormously.

He once showed me the citation that hangs on his office wall in Washington, detailing his valour in Vietnam.

Tears filled his eyes as he recounted some of what happened to him.

There is no doubt; McCain was astoundingly brave, to his own physical and psychological detriment, and deserves every plaudit.

Trump, in my opinion, was wrong to doubt that heroism, and he probably knows it, which is why he corrected himself as soon as he’d said it.

But it was also wrong of McCain to say that Trump’s supporters are a bunch of ‘crazies’.

Trump sniped at him because McCain sniped first.

They used to be good friends. I know this because when I interviewed Trump for GQ just before the 2009 Election, he said: ‘I know John well, and I like him. We had dinner together recently.’

Now it’s open war between them, and I have to admit I’m rather enjoying it – as I suspect is every journalist in America.

After Trump’s comments, all hell predictably broke loose.

He was condemned from all sides for his ‘outrageous’, ‘disgusting’ and ‘unpatriotic’ assault on America’s hero PoWs.

There were furious calls for him to quit the GOP race in disgrace.

He listened to them, and declined.

Politics is a rough old game and if you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the DC kitchen.

Trump is straight from the ‘smack ‘em in the eyeballs’ school of political fighting.

Not for him the niceties of polite to-ing and fro-ing, of calmly debating the issues and leaving it to the American people to decide who they like best.

The best-selling of Trump’s many best-selling books is entitled ‘Think Big And Kick Ass.’

This is a man with unshakable self-confidence and quite breath-taking bravado who takes a battering ram to every point he makes and every argument he has.

As McCain demands Trump apologises to every PoW veteran in America, Trump instead attacks McCain for letting down EVERY veteran, PoW or otherwise, in America with his supposed failed involvement in policies relating to the VA.

As with the Mexican immigrants ‘scandal’, Trump has switched the debate from an unacceptable, personally offensive quip to a far larger issue.

He’s done it by simply refusing to apologise.

And again, whether you agree with Trump or not, it’s hard not to admire his resolute strength and resilience under colossal fire.

America is crying out for leadership right now.

On the domestic and world stage, there’s a sense among many of the population that this once unassailable superpower is slipping behind.

President Obama is seen as weak in dealing with everyone from ISIS and Russia to China and OPEC.

Trump has tapped into that insecurity and nervousness by sounding ever more aggressive, dominant, and strong.

And it’s working.

 

Lol.

I wonder if the christian conservatives will put G-d to the side for Trump

 

They didn't for Romney, who was too much of a moderate for them.

Plus, l believe Trump is pro-abortion/choice.

 

Lol...well they are doing it now. ...At least so far.

He pretty much said he never asked G-d for forgiveness.

 

No they are not. You might be confusing Christian conservatives with Republicans.

 

Lol.
U may be rite

 

.......For perhaps some undisclosed personal reasons, you are starting to sound bitter and emotional,.... like a child who wants to alienate those who won't fall in line........like someone ask you to carry the mantle for all vets....No one asked you to do that......Although, you would like to make the debate about vets and vet loyalty,....The discussion is not about vets....It is about verbal retaliation directed at ONE smart-ass war vet......REMEMBER !!... we are having an objective political debate....Don't personalize what Trump said......He was not talking to you !!, He did NOT besmirch all vets...He was firing back at McCain...

 

What does the statement means
"I dont like those who got captured"

Why u keep avoiding that statement. Explain it.

Heres your chance at the urbane convo u desiref.

Oh tell montel williams he should be ok with it.

Nobody asked for me to take the mantle nor did i ask anybody to do so.

Btw its no different if a person called denzel a nigger.....every black person will be pissed

 

On a related note, General question... Does anyone know if there is a distinction between a War Hero and a POW? Or they considered the same thing in the military, Ie purple hearts, etc.

 

They are same. You are a hero.



pur·ple heart
noun
1.
(in the US) a military decoration for those wounded or killed in action, established in 1782 and re-established in 1932