TRUMP Thread

[andreboba]

Just because the slavemaster fed and clothed his slaves and produced offspring from his slave wenches didn't mean he wasn't still racist.

Trump doesn't have to be walking through Harlem with an AK47 shooting random Black folk to be a certifiable racist.

Do a google photo search of "Trump+Black+celebrities". Trump likes associating with Black athletes, entertainers, famous people, who have the ability to raise his media profile, get him photographed and give him the attention he craves.

Trump is less of a real estate developer and more of a media whore superstar wanna be.

Down South, it's still common for White politicians to be involved in outreach programs with impoverished Black communities, but they're still racist as fuck, as evidenced by their POLICIES while in office.

There's a reason why so many Black celebs who supported Trump's presidential run have backtracked on him, when they realized he was using them as a photo op.

The 'real' Trump has been known by everyone who cares to see since last January.
Per the NYT;
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

Who can forget Trump's racially motivated tweets against Obama?

An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 6, 2012

Or the blatant lies he told about Obama when was a law student at Harvard and called him a terrible, lazy student??

Notice how Trump has a bad habit of overgeneralizing anything that has to do with minorities, whether it pertains to crime, employment, diseases or aptitude.
“Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

What sealed it for Trump being an out racist was his willingness to surround himself with White nationalists inside his WH in the form of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

If Trump supporters want to act as if Trump only 'pretended' to be a racist to win the core base of the Republican party in the primaries, then Trump is truly a sick and twisted human being.
The problem is Trump isn't pretending. It's who he is and he's proud of it.

Wishing Trump wasn't racist isn't ever going to make it so.
And I wish Trump supporters would stop being so obsessed about whether or not Trump is a racist. 99% of all our former presidents were too, so in that sense Donald is among esteemed company.

 

[Loki]

FYI, most of the accomplishments listed above for Trump seem true, but that doesn't change the fact he's still a racist.

Precisely, hell, Hitler had Jewish friends in his youth, protected an SS officer when he was found to have Jewish ancestry, loved dogs, was a vegetarian, and was *still* a mass murdering embodiment of evil. The point is not to compare Trump with Hitler but to clearly state that a few good deeds does not outweigh the totality of ones actions.

 

[DudeNY12]

Precisely, hell, Hitler had Jewish friends in his youth, protected an SS officer when he was found to have Jewish ancestry, loved dogs, was a vegetarian, and was *still* a mass murdering embodiment of evil. The point is not to compare Trump with Hitler but to clearly state that a few good deeds does not outweigh the totality of ones actions.

Agreed! It's like they say... Look... Trump really is a good person and he really cares about non-whites, but we should ignore the boatload of stuff that totally contradicts all claims that there's anything good about his character. I think when he made that comment about "shithole countries" and people immigrating from Norway... He totally was picturing impovershed minorities from the "shithole countries" and young pretty white women when he mentioned Norway.

 

[Bliss]

Yeah OK. In light of this... I guess we should all believe the bigly (239lbs, LOL) one is really a great person despite so much that points to him being the opposite.

That last line... Lol! Well... Kellyanne did once say that we should listen to his heart and not what comes out of his mouth. She and her alternative facts. Gotta love it because no one can make this stuff up.

Are you fat-shaming? How do you call yourself a "liberal" but show immense intolerance for someone's appearance? Would it be ok if your weight was mocked back since you threw the first punch?

There is an expression that stands true.
'The Left and their comrades, the press, takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.'.

 

[DudeNY12]

Are you fat-shaming? How do you call yourself a "liberal" but show immense intolerance for someone's appearance? Would it be ok if your weight was mocked back since you threw the first punch?

There is an expression that stands true.
'The Left and their comrades, the press, takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.'.

No, I'm not fat-shaming. Based upon photos/video... I simply doubt that 239 lb figure is true. I'd guess him at more like 270ish, but that's between him and his doctor. People can mock my weight if they'd like. I'm not disgusted with my body, nor am I totally thrilled with it. At 5'9" and 185-190lb (with a gut)... I definitely can stand to shed some pounds.

I take him like I take anyone. I hear what they speak, but I absolutely form an opinion based upon their actions/habits.

 

[Bliss]

Agreed! It's like they say... Look... Trump really is a good person and he really cares about non-whites, but we should ignore the boatload of stuff that totally contradicts all claims that there's anything good about his character. I think when he made that comment about "shithole countries" and people immigrating from Norway... He totally was picturing impovershed minorities from the "shithole countries" and young pretty white women when he mentioned Norway.

That's disingenuous to inject a "pretty white women" comment as your false narrative.
President Trump didn't just say Norway, he said China as well, a fact which was never reported by the screaming banshee Senator running out of the meeting.

The facts remain that there was strong language occuring from many Senators in the meeting. Oh how l wish that Senator Durbin would have come running out and said what Obama said in closed meetings, but he was so far up his sphincter and the Republicans respected Obama that they would never leak the swearing and cursing that went on in his meetings.

Oh, the horror of bad curse words that your angry media spent 10 days covering 24/7 over the word "shithole", lol..
Again..it's no surprise the Left lost.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/14/politics/david-perdue-kirstjen-nielsen-daca/index.html
GOP senator: 'Gross misrepresentation' of Trump's 'shithole' remarks

 

[Bliss]

No, I'm not fat-shaming. Based upon photos/video... I simply doubt that 239 lb figure is true. I'd guess him at more like 270ish, but that's between him and his doctor. People can mock my weight if they'd like. I'm not disgusted with my body, nor am I totally thrilled with it. At 5'9" and 185-190lb (with a gut)... I definitely can stand to shed some pounds.

I take him like I take anyone. I hear what they speak, but I absolutely form an opinion based upon their actions/habits.

Why should people mock your weight, though? Is this to appease your conscious that your liberal philosophy is a farce? To justify that fat-shaming him is ok, when the Left have spent years publicly denouncing others for it?

My guess is his weight is correct, as was reported. I feel no need to call Obama's doctor a liar (even if you do).
FYI, many people can look heavier than they waight or weigh more than they look.

Trump also often wears a vest because the loon of the Left have becone so deranged and unhinged, his life is threatened every single day.

 

[DudeNY12]

That's disingenuous to inject a "pretty white women" comment as your false narrative.
President Trump didn't just say Norway, he said China as well, a fact which was never reported by the screaming banshee Senator running out of the meeting.

The facts remain that there was strong language occuring from many Senators in the meeting. Oh how l wish that Senator Durbin would have come running out and said what Obama said in closed meetings, but he was so far up his sphincter and the Republicans respected Obama that they would never leak the swearing and cursing that went on in his meetings.

Oh, the horror of bad curse words that your angry media spent 10 days covering 24/7 over the word "shithole", lol..
Again..it's no surprise the Left lost.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/14/politics/david-perdue-kirstjen-nielsen-daca/index.html
GOP senator: 'Gross misrepresentation' of Trump's 'shithole' remarks

Wow! You really think I have an issue with strong language/profanity? My problem is with the person. He's been showing himself to be this whom many detest for decades. The manner in which he treats others is directly responsible for the negative sentiment toward him. Most of us learn at an early age that respect is earned. If he learned it... he sure as heck doesn't practice it.

 

[DudeNY12]

Why should people mock your weight, though? Is this to appease your conscious that your liberal philosophy is a farce? To justify that fat-shaming him is ok, when the Left have spent years publicly denouncing others for it?

My guess is his weight is correct, as was reported. I feel no need to call Obama's doctor a liar (even if you do).
FYI, many people can look heavier than they waight or weigh more than they look.

Trump also often wears a vest because the loon of the Left have becone so deranged and unhinged, his life is threatened every single day.

If I told someone that I weighed 170lbs (about where I should be)... I'd expect them to not believe it. If Obama's doctor stated that his weight was 155 lbs... I'd think it's simply not true based upon his height even with him being slim. Now, if that's fat-shaming... Then, so be it.

If Trump needs extra protection... it's definitely his own doing. He certainly is in no more danger than Obama. In fact... I'd say he's not in as much danger as Obama was simply because of his (Obama) skin color.

 

[Bliss]

Wow! You really think I have an issue with strong language/profanity? My problem is with the person. He's been showing himself to be this whom many detest for decades. The manner in which he treats others is directly responsible for the negative sentiment toward him. Most of us learn at an early age that respect is earned. If he learned it... he sure as heck doesn't practice it.

Flamingheretosexual constantly says on here that America is fast becoming the new Bangladesh. If you disagree with him, why have you never spoken up?

Trump essentially asked, 'why does America have to take in every person when a natural disaster strikes?'
The disingenuousness from the Democrats is sickening. They really don't give a shithole if some Nepalese mountain guy lost his hut to a mudslide, just bring him here, give him housing and wrlfare and get his ass registered to vote already.

 

[DudeNY12]

Flamingheretosexual constantly says on here that America is fast becoming the new Bangladesh. If you disagree with him, why have you never spoken up?

Trump essentially asked, 'why does America have to take in every person when a natural disaster strikes?'
The disingenuousness from the Democrats is sickening. They really don't give a shithole if some Nepalese mountain guy lost his hut to a mudslide, just bring him here, give him housing and wrlfare and get his ass registered to vote already.

Trump also feels the government shouldn't run people's lives yet he wants to tell women what they can and can't do with their body.

 

[andreboba]

LOL at someone having to explain what Trump really said.
Isn't this the same guy who said he had the BEST words and would be so presidential, if elected??
You just fell for the con and listened to the biggest loudmouth in the room and thought they were telling the truth when they told you how great they were.

As I've gotten older, I realize there are millions of Americans who no longer believe in the concepts this country was founded upon.

For the record, we don't come close to taking in every refugee from a country that suffers a natural disaster, or lives in a war zone.

 

[Bliss]

If I told someone that I weighed 170lbs (about where I should be)... I'd expect them to not believe it. If Obama's doctor stated that his weight was 155 lbs... I'd think it's simply not true based upon his height even with him being slim. Now, if that's fat-shaming... Then, so be it.

If Trump needs extra protection... it's definitely his own doing. He certainly is in no more danger than Obama. In fact... I'd say he's not in as much danger as Obama was simply because of his (Obama) skin color.

I have no idea what you weigh, nor do l care. Why would l? Why do you care what Trump weighs, or if he looks what he weighs. We are bones, muscle, fat, water...so much determines our weight.

I agree Obama was in danger because of his skin color, and it was a constant worry.
Dont think however, that the thinly- vieled "orange man" isnt code for despised White man. There are many who wsnt Trump dead because he's white. It's despicable, and unjustified.

 

[Bliss]

LOL at someone having to explain what Trump really said.
Isn't this the same guy who said he had the BEST words and would be so presidential, if elected??
You just fell for the con and listened to the biggest loudmouth in the room and thought they were telling the truth when they told you how great they were.

As I've gotten older, I realize there are millions of Americans who no longer believe in the concepts this country was founded upon.

For the record, we don't come close to taking in every refugee from a country that suffers a natural disaster, or lives in a war zone.

We don't? Lolol..look around you. You're lying, AB.
We are the place most apply to. Not europe, not Canada, not Australia..the latter whom has strict policies of acceptance.
Heck we will accept 20 million illegals. Name me one other country who does that.

Lol.Please dont talk about con when Obama conned the country. It took a few years to show, but con he did. And Obama definitely had the best words, too.

 

[andreboba]

Are you fat-shaming? How do you call yourself a "liberal" but show immense intolerance for someone's appearance? Would it be ok if your weight was mocked back since you threw the first punch?

There is an expression that stands true.
'The Left and their comrades, the press, takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.'.

Bliss, do you know how crazy this sounds??
How is someone supposed to be an effective leader if you can't take what they say LITERALLY??
Basically you're saying the president is a bullshitter and a compulsive liar and you need to go talk to the real ADULTS working inside the WH to find out what's going on.

LOL. If you don't know if the president is lying or not, how the hell do you take him 'seriously'??
What the fuck does that even mean??

So when Trump says Mexico is going to build the wall, which was a bald faced lie, I guess taking him 'seriously' means, actually dumb ass tax payers are going to pay for any wall because Trump just said that shit because it sounded cool on the campaign trail to pretend to punk Mexico.

My God what a disaster of a president.

 

[DudeNY12]

I have no idea what you weigh, nor do l care. Why would l? Why do you care what Trump weighs, or if he looks what he weighs. We are bones, muscle, fat, water...so much determines our weight.

I agree Obama was in danger because of his skin color, and it was a constant worry.
Dont think however, that the thinly- vieled "orange man" isnt code for despised White man. There are many who wsnt Trump dead because he's white. It's despicable, and unjustified.

OMG, really!!! OK... Yes, the bottom line is that I don't give one crap about his weight as it doesn't affect me in the least. I hope I didn't give the impression that I did care. However, as the POTUS... I do care that he feels a need to lie about any and everything.

Yes, I totally despise Trump, but has nothing to do with his race, and everything to do with his ways/character. Sadly, he and the like can't (honestly) say the same about someone who looks like me.

 

[Bliss]

Trump also feels the government shouldn't run people's lives yet he wants to tell women what they can and can't do with their body.

And that's a fair argument.
Question though..Do you think as a father, you should have a say if your unborn child should be aborted or not?

 

[DudeNY12]

And that's a fair argument.
Question though..Do you think as a father, you should have a say if your unborn child should be aborted or not?

I don't have any children. If I did and/or if someone was impregnated by me... I feel I have a right to know, but that the mother's (mother-to-be) decision/feeling tops all others.

 

[andreboba]

We don't? Lolol..look around you. You're lying, AB.
We are the place most apply to. Not europe, not Canada, not Australia..the latter whom has strict policies of acceptance.
Heck we will accept 20 million illegals. Name me one other country who does that.

Lol.Please dont talk about con when Obama conned the country. It took a few years to show, but con he did. And Obama definitely had the best words, too.

Explain Obama's long con, since you can't help bringing him up. He had an obstructionist Republican Congress for 6 years, not sure he had enough juice to con anyone because he couldn't get anything passed through Congress.
Typical, when a Trumpster is losing ground defending Donald, they go back to Obama and grasp at straws.

BTW the United States takes in about 1 million immigrants a year, not 20 MILLION. Step out of the bubble, Bliss. Common sense and not ideology should have told you that 20 mil number was a right wing fantasy.

 

[Bliss]

Bliss, do you know how crazy this sounds??
How is someone supposed to be an effective leader if you can't take what they say LITERALLY??
Basically you're saying the president is a bullshitter and a compulsive liar and you need to go talk to the real ADULTS working inside the WH to find out what's going on.

LOL. If you don't know if the president is lying or not, how the hell do you take him 'seriously'??
What the fuck does that even mean??

So when Trump says Mexico is going to build the wall, which was a bald faced lie, I guess taking him 'seriously' means, actually dumb ass tax payers are going to pay for any wall because Trump just said that shit because it sounded cool on the campaign trail to pretend to punk Mexico.

My God what a disaster of a president.

That's absolutely not what it means. We just don't hang on every little word and take it literally like if he says 'shithole' or 'shithouse'. You Liberals go bananas, when we understand what he's saying. We look at the big picture - you look at things much like high-school-girls, like everything is the end of the world if a guy called you a hoe. SMH.