'Why I Prefer Black Men': A White Woman's Story

[lainarain]

Sabinne - from one ww to another I have to say, I agree with most of what these men are saying.

You have been offended by what they had said about liking a black man's skin color. However, you have not shown any thought to the fact that the possibility for racism exists. As ww, we are held up in society as the coveted ones and with that, comes privilege. Privilege that makes us blind to the possibilities of seeing racism. I am not saying that you are not aware of this, I am saying that you may not be aware of how this has crept into your life. You disagreed by what they both have said to you and responded in a adolescent, foul manner.

Also, as for your argument that your one black cousin does not find it offensive to be found sexy because he is black...he is one man. It is racist to expect your one cousin to be the sounding board and the truth to all black men on earth. You and your family may believe what you believe but you cannot be offended by what these two men believe.

As for throwing around your master's degree. You are not the only one here to have one, so it does not give you a better argument than others. In addition, the most important thing I had learned while completing my graduate degree is that it is not an indicator of intelligence. I have met the most ignorant and unintelligent people who also have their graduate degree. I have also met highly intelligent folks who have little formal education. You are not better than anyone else here.

 

[7Seven]

I never once suggested any man, black or white should be a play-toy. I'm not sure that you've actually read what I've said. I think that people are attracted to different things and skin color can be a part of their attraction. I don't see what's so wrong about that; a great many white women acquire tans to make themselves more attractive and that's just a skin color.

You're angry with someone, but I don't think it's me. I think perhaps you must have viewed yourself as some woman's play-toy at one point or another or you wouldn't be so upset. I can't see why else you'd have such a great need to feel superior to me, as if where you live would play any part in that. It hasn't helped you in the least bit and where you grew up hasn't either.

In my opinion, it's not so much where you come from in life that makes a difference, but where you go from there. I'm happy with my life. I came from nothing and managed to attend a wonderful university, eat dinner with Presidents, and see quite a few little parts of the world. Perhaps that's not good enough for you, but I don't live my life for you or anyone else. My life is my own.

Oh, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I study art extensively and one only needs to see some of the shat that people pay millions to own to come to that conclusion, cliche or not.

Using Art as an reference of female or even male beauty faulty. The average person is not that deep; they are not looking for a deeper meaning into their attractions or even to care to understand the way the feel - they just FEEL. As expected with WW who have an "Colour Complex" -- But an intelligible Artist, one of an great mind is able to take his knowledge and express it through delicate emotions.

As Pierre-Auguste Renoir states by his assertion....The work of art must seize upon you, wrap you up in itself and carry you away. It is the means by which the artist conveys his passion. It is the current which he puts forth, which sweeps you along in his passion. The pain passes, the beauty remains.

The lustful thoughts in, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an Artist license and it is not meant to be used as some punch line for low esteem persons to express their inadequacies.

The only person in need to feel superior to another - is those who express and infringe their idiosyncrasies onto those they feel the need to control or have. I only see white women expressing this dubious position of compulsive behaviour. They are in position and have supreme power in this position - do nothing but abusing this power simply because they love black skin.

 

[Sabinne]

Don't believe me? Here's some pics of proof:

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Look at this...he's treating white women and their feet like sex objects...we're all nothing but future pedicures to him, it's disgusting!!! I have white skin and feet! Damnit, I'm offended! I'm positive that white women with feet are nothing but toys to him!!

[quote=SardonicGenie]I do find white skin attractive on a woman, but that's not the most important thing, albeit being a factor in my attraction. [/quote]

How dare he like white skin! People are not allowed to be attracted to skin color, it's evil!

**Really guys...why is it horrible one way, but okay the other?

 

[Sabinne]

Using Art as an reference of female or even male beauty faulty. The average person is not that deep; they are not looking for a deeper meaning into their attractions or even to care to understand the way the feel - they just FEEL. As expected with WW who have an "Colour Complex" -- But an intelligible Artist, one of an great mind is able to take his knowledge and express it through delicate emotions.

As Pierre-Auguste Renoir states by his assertion....The work of art must seize upon you, wrap you up in itself and carry you away. It is the means by which the artist conveys his passion. It is the current which he puts forth, which sweeps you along in his passion. The pain passes, the beauty remains.

The lustful thoughts in, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an Artist license and it is not meant to be used as some punch line for low esteem persons to express their inadequacies.

The only person in need to feel superior to another - is those who express and infringe their idiosyncrasies onto those they feel the need to control or have. I only see white women expressing this dubious position of compulsive behaviour. They are in position and have supreme power in this position - do nothing but abusing this power simply because they love black skin.

I think we have found a point in which we agree, except that a person only has power if you give it to them. You must have studied chess, so you can see how this holds true in almost every situation in life.

As for beauty being in the eye of the beholder--I happen to think that it does apply to average people, it holds true for everyone. I mention art because it's part of my daily life. As a student, I often find myself in discussions on whether a piece of art is good or not. In New York, there is a display of nothing but giant red smears of paint on canvas. I think it looks like a crime scene, but a friend of mine found it energizing. How art is regarded depends on who is looking at it. I used the reference when you mentioned my looks only because some men find my proportions and face pleasing, while others think I'm too large for their taste. I have learned that the only opinion of me that matters is mine.

 

[Sabinne]

Sabinne - from one ww to another I have to say, I agree with most of what these men are saying.

You have been offended by what they had said about liking a black man's skin color. However, you have not shown any thought to the fact that the possibility for racism exists. As ww, we are held up in society as the coveted ones and with that, comes privilege. Privilege that makes us blind to the possibilities of seeing racism. I am not saying that you are not aware of this, I am saying that you may not be aware of how this has crept into your life. You disagreed by what they both have said to you and responded in a adolescent, foul manner.

Also, as for your argument that your one black cousin does not find it offensive to be found sexy because he is black...he is one man. It is racist to expect your one cousin to be the sounding board and the truth to all black men on earth. You and your family may believe what you believe but you cannot be offended by what these two men believe.

As for throwing around your master's degree. You are not the only one here to have one, so it does not give you a better argument than others. In addition, the most important thing I had learned while completing my graduate degree is that it is not an indicator of intelligence. I have met the most ignorant and unintelligent people who also have their graduate degree. I have also met highly intelligent folks who have little formal education. You are not better than anyone else here.

As if what he said wasn't foul. My response was appropriate, maybe not to your delicate sensibilities, but you'll get past this somehow and lead a...well, you'll lead some sort of life. I don't know, the point is you'll make it.

I have two black cousins, a black uncle and that entire family. I only asked my cousin because I can call him and ask him anything. He'll tell me the truth. Also, I never said his opinion represented all black men. Obviously, there are black men here that disagree with me. My cousin just gave a dissenting opinion...you have heard of that, right?

As for me throwing my degrees around, I was merely responding to someone else. It is not an implication that I am the only one who could have attended a higher institution of learning. I wasn't the only person in my classes; I do realize other people attend. And I agree with you, education means little in the way of intelligence; you are a prime example.

 

['Sup.]

And I agree with you, education means little in the way of intelligence; you are a prime example.[/b]

Wow..that wasnt too nice :?

 

[luxusvilla123]

new love

hello
i am from Germany and i am new here. so please excuse my mistakes, i am not so much used in English.
i cannot say, if i would prefer a BM. the only thing i know is, that i met a man from Africa and i am full in love with him.
he is able to give me, what i was looking for, so long time. i am feeling home, he treats me respectfully, is patient, lovely and so much sexy.

first i did not want contact to him, not because he is black, or whatever. no, i was married 13 years and wanted to live alone for the next years.(i had no men for the last 24 months). but he knew it better than me, he didn´t give up.

now i hope, that he will not have so much thoughts of being black and me white. that would make everything very complicate. i love him as person and want him as my man.
greetings

 

[7Seven]

Using Art as an reference of female or even male beauty faulty. The average person is not that deep; they are not looking for a deeper meaning into their attractions or even to care to understand the way the feel - they just FEEL. As expected with WW who have an "Colour Complex" -- But an intelligible Artist, one of an great mind is able to take his knowledge and express it through delicate emotions.

As Pierre-Auguste Renoir states by his assertion....The work of art must seize upon you, wrap you up in itself and carry you away. It is the means by which the artist conveys his passion. It is the current which he puts forth, which sweeps you along in his passion. The pain passes, the beauty remains.

The lustful thoughts in, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an Artist license and it is not meant to be used as some punch line for low esteem persons to express their inadequacies.

The only person in need to feel superior to another - is those who express and infringe their idiosyncrasies onto those they feel the need to control or have. I only see white women expressing this dubious position of compulsive behaviour. They are in position and have supreme power in this position - do nothing but abusing this power simply because they love black skin.

I think we have found a point in which we agree, except that a person only has power if you give it to them. You must have studied chess, so you can see how this holds true in almost every situation in life.

Oh! You are a perceptive one!!! I am an well experienced and respected chess player, but I am no grandmaster. But it is true, the most powerful Human is the white women - they just do not know it or lack the necessary intelligence to materialise it into something meaningful and with regard other than their own self gain and pleasure. Hence their struggle for independence.

Men of every denomination, cultural background, hue and Establishment; have fought, brought nations to war, created Morals and Religion, civilization and the like all to empress an European White Women. The sheer power, still, till this day, White women share that same power. It has only materialised into racist overtones and sexual innuendos - none the less the air of power still exists.

In comes the black male who by definition is already considered less than human; because 1) he is a man, and only use in this pathetic world - is to provide material wealth; even White women want to take that from us or any sense of masculinity men want to claim and 2) the colour of his skin, the politics revolving around the colour of his skin, the negative connotations revolving around the colour of his skin. Therefore hold no position of real power. The only power he can keep is his Soul - white women may be able to move most black men, but not this black male.

 

[Sabinne]

Oh! You are a perceptive one!!! I am an well experienced and respected chess player, but I am no grandmaster. But it is true, the most powerful Human is the white women - they just do not know it or lack the necessary intelligence to materialise it into something meaningful and with regard other than their own self gain and pleasure. Hence their struggle for independence.

Men of every denomination, cultural background, hue and Establishment; have fought, brought nations to war, created Morals and Religion, civilization and the like all to empress an European White Women. The sheer power, still, till this day, White women share that same power. It has only materialised into racist overtones and sexual innuendos - none the less the air of power still exists.

In comes the black male who by definition is already considered less than human; because 1) he is a man, and only use in this pathetic world - is to provide material wealth; even White women want to take that from us or any sense of masculinity men want to claim and 2) the colour of his skin, the politics revolving around the colour of his skin, the negative connotations revolving around the colour of his skin. Therefore hold no position of real power. The only power he can keep is his Soul - white women may be able to move most black men, but not this black male.

I think it's sad that you feel that way. As a chess player, you should realize the power that you hold is just as great as any other player. A woman's power exists because others give it to her, no matter what her race. Men hold a great deal of power over women and I doubt anyone could ever deny that. More wars have been fought and more blood has been spilled so that a man could gain power. Rarely has it ever had anything to do with a white woman.

I can't respect a woman who is with a man solely for the color of his skin, but the man who does not realize this is just as much at fault. Would you not realize that you were not being valued as an equal in a relationship? Would you not see the lack of respect you were being given? If a person is not bright enough to realize his own situation, then perhaps he deserves whatever consequence it brings.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt

 

[lainarain]

As if what he said wasn't foul. My response was appropriate, maybe not to your delicate sensibilities, but you'll get past this somehow and lead a...well, you'll lead some sort of life. I don't know, the point is you'll make it.

I have two black cousins, a black uncle and that entire family. I only asked my cousin because I can call him and ask him anything. He'll tell me the truth. Also, I never said his opinion represented all black men. Obviously, there are black men here that disagree with me. My cousin just gave a dissenting opinion...you have heard of that, right?

As for me throwing my degrees around, I was merely responding to someone else. It is not an implication that I am the only one who could have attended a higher institution of learning. I wasn't the only person in my classes; I do realize other people attend. And I agree with you, education means little in the way of intelligence; you are a prime example.

Ha! Ha! Ha! All that response deserves is a laugh.

 

[Bryant]

Honestly, i just flat out don't like this article, and i'm really at the point where i'm not liking white women who think like this. It's not flattering at all, and it's really demeaning i think. A white womans parents and family members are reason enough to make you want to steer clear, but for her to just look at me as some sort of sex toy or play thing or something, in my opinion, there is no greater insult than that. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it's making me appreciate black women a little bit more.

 

[PearlGirl]

Honestly, i just flat out don't like this article, and i'm really at the point where i'm not liking white women who think like this. It's not flattering at all, and it's really demeaning i think. A white womans parents and family members are reason enough to make you want to steer clear, but for her to just look at me as some sort of sex toy or play thing or something, in my opinion, there is no greater insult than that. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it's making me appreciate black women a little bit more.

I can see your point, but don't you think that there are women of every race who objectify black men, including black women?

Just like there are men of every race who objectify women of every race?

 

[Bryant]

Re: new love

hello
i am from Germany and i am new here. so please excuse my mistakes, i am not so much used in English.
i cannot say, if i would prefer a BM. the only thing i know is, that i met a man from Africa and i am full in love with him.
he is able to give me, what i was looking for, so long time. i am feeling home, he treats me respectfully, is patient, lovely and so much sexy.

first i did not want contact to him, not because he is black, or whatever. no, i was married 13 years and wanted to live alone for the next years.(i had no men for the last 24 months). but he knew it better than me, he didn´t give up.

now i hope, that he will not have so much thoughts of being black and me white. that would make everything very complicate. i love him as person and want him as my man.
greetings

That was a nice post. I really appreciate things like this. You can tell that she likes him as a man, and i think that's awesome. All of the black men-as-sex-toy stuff can just go. It makes me sick. I don't care for that kinda stuff at all. I've never had the urge to seek out white women (as i don't think that there's anything particularly special about them that makes them any better than other women), but i can say that i'll mostly always be open to the possibility of it. But, if white women are going to consistently think in terms of just using black men as sex machines, i'll be much better off without white women altogether. Any black guy who wants to be used like this, well, that guy has serious problems i think.

 

[Bryant]

Honestly, i just flat out don't like this article, and i'm really at the point where i'm not liking white women who think like this. It's not flattering at all, and it's really demeaning i think. A white womans parents and family members are reason enough to make you want to steer clear, but for her to just look at me as some sort of sex toy or play thing or something, in my opinion, there is no greater insult than that. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it's making me appreciate black women a little bit more.

I can see your point, but don't you think that there are women of every race who objectify black men, including black women?

Just like there are men of every race who objectify women of every race?

Uh huh, i do PearlGirl. I'm sure that there are black women out there who totally objectify black men as well and make them feel useless, but what aggravates me is the fact that there are a lot of white women out there who are totally racist, but who still look for black men to have sex with all the time when their husbands aren't home. God, it just makes me sick. And what's even more sickening is the fact that a lot of white women, no matter how attractive they are, expect you to like them just because they're white. No offense, but that's just not enough. White skin is just not enough to make me like someone. It never has been enough, and it never, ever will be enough. You know what PearlGirl? I think that i'm even more disappointed in a lot of the black men for allowing this to continue. What they're doing is no better, and it may even be worse than what some of the white women are doing. The black men who are letting white women treat them like sex toys are a disgrace, and i'm totally ashamed to be linked with men like them.

 

[luxusvilla123]

i am a new member and when i am honest, i never thought about so much differences of black and white.
first, when i was in africa, i saw the varying mentality and culture.
these people are not so cold, like the europeans.
but i cannot see big differences between blacks/whites, if both are grown up in europe. everybody has his own personality, education, experiences.
i know many erotic germans, italians or french. there are good and bad people all over the world.
sometimes people can make easy things very complicated.
i just want to be happy, live my life and want to be together with intelligent, lovely people, which enrich my life.
greetings

 

[Bryant]

i am a new member and when i am honest, i never thought about so much differences of black and white.
first, when i was in africa, i saw the varying mentality and culture.
these people are not so cold, like the europeans.
but i cannot see big differences between blacks/whites, if both are grown up in europe. everybody has his own personality, education, experiences.
i know many erotic germans, italians or french. there are good and bad people all over the world.
sometimes people can make easy things very complicated.
i just want to be happy, live my life and want to be together with intelligent, lovely people, which enrich my life.
greetings

I hope to meet more people like you one day luxusvilla. I'm so glad that you can see things for what they really are, and you see that we're not so different. I mean, we're different, but those differences should be valued instead of stomped all over like they have been.

 

[tuckerreed]

awesome answer, you must be a brotha with some education cause its rare to see a brotha on here that understands so clearly that diversity is a good thing and not a thing to use only for politics and speeches but not to live it.

glad you are hear, it gets lonely

 

[Bryant]

awesome answer, you must be a brotha with some education cause its rare to see a brotha on here that understands so clearly that diversity is a good thing and not a thing to use only for politics and speeches but not to live it.

glad you are hear, it gets lonely

Yeah, i mean, one of the best things in the world is diversity you know. It's so cool getting to know things about people who are different from you. When i look at white people, i can obviously see that they talk a little differently, walk a little differently, act a little differently, etc.... but when i see those differences, i respect them. I don't dislike those differences at all, and it's just mind baffling how some white people can just write off our differences as being bad. I don't understand it at all.

 

[PearlGirl]

Honestly, i just flat out don't like this article, and i'm really at the point where i'm not liking white women who think like this. It's not flattering at all, and it's really demeaning i think. A white womans parents and family members are reason enough to make you want to steer clear, but for her to just look at me as some sort of sex toy or play thing or something, in my opinion, there is no greater insult than that. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it's making me appreciate black women a little bit more.

I can see your point, but don't you think that there are women of every race who objectify black men, including black women?

Just like there are men of every race who objectify women of every race?

Uh huh, i do PearlGirl. I'm sure that there are black women out there who totally objectify black men as well and make them feel useless, but what aggravates me is the fact that there are a lot of white women out there who are totally racist, but who still look for black men to have sex with all the time when their husbands aren't home. God, it just makes me sick. And what's even more sickening is the fact that a lot of white women, no matter how attractive they are, expect you to like them just because they're white. No offense, but that's just not enough. White skin is just not enough to make me like someone. It never has been enough, and it never, ever will be enough. You know what PearlGirl? I think that i'm even more disappointed in a lot of the black men for allowing this to continue. What they're doing is no better, and it may even be worse than what some of the white women are doing. The black men who are letting white women treat them like sex toys are a disgrace, and i'm totally ashamed to be linked with men like them.

I totally hear you and I agree. But I think that men are men and the black men who give in and allow ww to use them are just dirty horn-dogs who will put up with anything to get laid.

In my case, just because a man has black skin is not enough for me to like him and to want to get with him!!

I have friends who when we go out always feel the need to point out all the black men in the room to me!! Well, duh... of course I don't find all bm attractive BECAUSE they are black!!

 

[flaminghetero]

Honestly, i just flat out don't like this article, and i'm really at the point where i'm not liking white women who think like this. It's not flattering at all, and it's really demeaning i think. A white womans parents and family members are reason enough to make you want to steer clear, but for her to just look at me as some sort of sex toy or play thing or something, in my opinion, there is no greater insult than that. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it's making me appreciate black women a little bit more.

I can see your point, but don't you think that there are women of every race who objectify black men, including black women?

Just like there are men of every race who objectify women of every race?

Uh huh, i do PearlGirl. I'm sure that there are black women out there who totally objectify black men as well and make them feel useless, but what aggravates me is the fact that there are a lot of white women out there who are totally racist, but who still look for black men to have sex with all the time when their husbands aren't home. God, it just makes me sick. And what's even more sickening is the fact that a lot of white women, no matter how attractive they are, expect you to like them just because they're white. No offense, but that's just not enough. White skin is just not enough to make me like someone. It never has been enough, and it never, ever will be enough. You know what PearlGirl? I think that i'm even more disappointed in a lot of the black men for allowing this to continue. What they're doing is no better, and it may even be worse than what some of the white women are doing. The black men who are letting white women treat them like sex toys are a disgrace, and i'm totally ashamed to be linked with men like them.

I totally hear you and I agree. But I think that men are men and the black men who give in and allow ww to use them are just dirty horn-dogs who will put up with anything to get laid.

In my case, just because a man has black skin is not enough for me to like him and to want to get with him!!

I have friends who when we go out always feel the need to point out all the black men in the room to me!! Well, duh... of course I don't find all bm attractive BECAUSE they are black!!

:lol: :lol:

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