Movies with BM/WW Couples

ColiBreh1 said:
I just saw this headline title on Collider.com's official YouTube channel:


http://collider.com/spider-verse-2-miles-morales-spider-gwen-movie-talk/
qaz1 said:
Pretty much everything pertains to some agenda, right? Which one are you referencing here?
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I have no idea why @darkcurry disagrees with me it's an agenda. I'm for it, but I can admit it's an agenda.
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We were have a discussion a couple weeks ago about why are we getting so much IR pushed in TV, films, & ads nowadays. @darkcurry seems to genuinely believe Hollywood is just pushing diversity. I on the other hand knows this is racist liberal Hollywood we're talking about, they're obviously pushing an agenda.
 
darkcurry said:
No I do believe it is an agenda. I think studios now want to do it because of course money, but there are those in hollywood that want to actually bring diversity into art. This is one of the most TABOO relationships in at least this country's and London's history. So whatever their agenda is will backfire and the only thing they'll get out of it is the money. Diversity and bm/ww IR is on the rise in art. And we haven't even scratched the surface.
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Even if it's an agenda at least it's one I can get behind. Hollywood has had brothas and sistas mixing since it's inception. So might as well now make movies that represent the changing landscape. Gwen x Miles are a cute couple, excited they're already diving in head first to make them an established couple.
I mean the freaking movie ENDS with Gwen basically sending Miles a trans-dimensional "You up?" message lol. I'm cautiously optimistic.

darkcurry said:
What's The OA?
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Netflix series, kinda metaphysical in tone.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
We were have a discussion a couple weeks ago about why are we getting so much IR pushed in TV, films, & ads nowadays. @darkcurry seems to genuinely believe Hollywood is just pushing diversity. I on the other hand knows this is racist liberal Hollywood we're talking about, they're obviously pushing an agenda.
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I said it's a mixture of both. I don't believe everybody coming with more diversity are on this racist liberal agenda. There are some that are genuine. But as @Elklodge pointed out it's one agenda we can get behind. Just stay on your toes and as long as the liberal party keeps letting their racist rhetoric slip in their tweets and speeches and double standards like the celebs who have gotten away with blackface it's going to make it tough on them. That's why I love the support Kevin Hart and Kyler Murray got when they really tried them.


But they're making black men look good. I just got done telling @qaz1 about All About Nina and how even though it's feminist type of movie they just made the brotha out to be not only the lover, but the SAVIOR of the troubled white woman. @RicardoCooper would like that. lol.
 
darkcurry said:
I said it's a mixture of both. I don't believe everybody coming with more diversity are on this racist liberal agenda. There are some that are genuine. But as @Elklodge pointed out it's one agenda we can get behind. Just stay on your toes and as long as the liberal party keeps letting their racist rhetoric slip in their tweets and speeches and double standards like the celebs who have gotten away with blackface it's going to make it tough on them. That's why I love the support Kevin Hart and Kyler Murray got when they really tried them.


But they're making black men look good. I just got done telling @qaz1 about All About Nina and how even though it's feminist type of movie they just made the brotha out to be not only the lover, but the SAVIOR of the troubled white woman. @RicardoCooper would like that. lol.
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I feel like I missed something. What is the liberal Hollywood agenda when it comes to IR?

And I do think Kevin Hart got a raw deal. But I simply cannot support Kyler Murray, because Sooners suck and Tua was robbed! :p Hook em!
 
I just saw "Bird Box" last night, it drops on Netflix Friday. Sandra Bullock and Travante Rhodes are a couple in it. It's sort of like "A Quite Place" in reverse. If you've seen "A Quiet Place" you'll know what I mean.
 
darkcurry said:
But they're making black men look good. I just got done telling @qaz1 about All About Nina and how even though it's feminist type of movie they just made the brotha out to be not only the lover, but the SAVIOR of the troubled white woman. @RicardoCooper would like that. lol.
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This actually reminds me, how did Common come off looking in that movie he did with Laura Dern (The Tale)? Was he actually the admirable black love interest in TWO movies??? Lol
 
Tsharp99 said:
I just saw "Bird Box" last night, it drops on Netflix Friday. Sandra Bullock and Travante Rhodes are a couple in it. It's sort of like "A Quite Place" in reverse. If you've seen "A Quiet Place" you'll know what I mean.
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How'd the relationship go, since we're on the subject lol?
 
darkcurry said:
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I'm iffy on this film. I read the book and found it to be spectacular and very dark. The only downside is that despite the story taking place in Michigan, I believe in a suburb of Detroit, all the characters in the book were white with the possible lone exception of Olivia who was possibly Hispanic. Possibly. I realize the Detroit area can be kind of segregated but...come on (I believe this movie version takes place in California). Anyway the casting of this film has been surprising. There are more characters stuck in the house than in the book it seems. A few of these characters are of different races, including the role Trevante Rhodes plays. His character and Sandra's don't have a romantic relationship in the book (although they seem to have an attraction); they never got a chance for it to blossom before certain events shook things up. And Sandra's character is in her early 20s in the novel. Its a real tragic story and this film seems headed in some very different directions.

That said the scrip made changes which included this romance. But Trevante wouldn't have ever been chosen if Sandra Bullock didn't agree to it. She appeared to be the fully onboard after the white female director, whom I think is non-American, who suggested Rhoades for the the role. Here are some quotes from Sandra:

“You write this human being and in the time of the big #MeToo thing, you get to experience a glorious man that I go, ‘That’s the man I want. That’s the father that I would want my children to have. That’s the kind of representation that exists in a lot of places but we just don’t see it in films.’ And here it was written. I wanted more of a love story, Susanne wanted more of a love story. I missed love stories, you know? So she says, ‘I want you to meet Trevante’ and I’m like, ‘Ok.'”

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We were all in Moonlight heaven at that time and we sat down… I remember where he sat, I remember how he looked, and it’s how he is right now. You know, it’s a human being that hears you, who respects you, you felt his connection to the ground and to the greater. There was insight. There was kindness. I mean, the talent was already there, we saw that, but then you meet this human being and… it’s the movies. You want your leading man to be the leading man that you want to just ride off into the sunset with. You also want that leading man to be someone you trust with your children.”

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Sandra says she was so sure about having Trevante Rhodes playing her leading man that she threatened not to to do the project if he wasn’t hired.

“I walked away and I said, ‘If we don’t cast him, if we don’t make this deal, I’m just gonna…’ I was very dramatic,” said Sandra Bullock. “I said very dramatic things. But to me, I said this is the story I want to tell and I want this human being to be my ride or die in this process.”

As far as the on-set dynamic, Sandra says it’s all love working with the Moonlight star.

“We work really really well together. There’s an unsaid ping pong match that happens when you just connect with somebody. It’s just nice. He’s a good human being who happens to have a wicked 12-pack!”


I'e posted maybe a half dozen times before about examples of white women with clout either as leading ladies, directors or screen writers have been responsible for the casting of black actors as their main co-star and/or onscreen love interests. In the cases not involving white women as screenwriters, these casting decisions of black actors were made despite black men not initially being envisioned for the roles. White women take some grief on this very site at times when it comes to onscreen diversity but when in power they do a better job of projecting black men as suitable love interests for a white female star than black men or women in similar positions ever do. Hell, white guys do a better job at this too.

I recall the shit that Bullock took on these boards as an actress who was a mainstream movie version of a dodger because of some flimsy evidence that she avoided starring opposite black men as love interests. Hmmmm. Either she "evolved" or the people making those assertions were as foolish as I called them out for all those years ago.
 
JamalSpunky said:
I'e posted maybe a half dozen times before about examples of white women with clout either as leading ladies, directors or screen writers have been responsible for the casting of black actors as their main co-star and/or onscreen love interests. In the cases not involving white women as screenwriters, these casting decisions of black actors were made despite black men not initially being envisioned for the roles. White women take some grief on this very site at times when it comes to onscreen diversity but when in power they do a better job of projecting black men as suitable love interests for a white female star than black men or women in similar positions ever do. Hell, white guys do a better job at this too.
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This is true. Most black male Directors/producers/showrunners would be scared to do it.
 
JamalSpunky said:
White women take some grief on this very site at times when it comes to onscreen diversity but when in power they do a better job of projecting black men as suitable love interests for a white female star than black men or women in similar positions ever do. Hell, white guys do a better job at this too...
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I think it's sometimes easier to do the right thing when you're not saddled with the fraught personal history. Sometimes people are too close to a situation to see it objectively. Not feeling all of the complex feelings nor inherently grasping the nuance of the situation and all of its players can make the right decision more obvious. Hope that makes sense
 
JamalSpunky said:
I'e posted maybe a half dozen times before about examples of white women with clout either as leading ladies, directors or screen writers have been responsible for the casting of black actors as their main co-star and/or onscreen love interests. In the cases not involving white women as screenwriters, these casting decisions of black actors were made despite black men not initially being envisioned for the roles. White women take some grief on this very site at times when it comes to onscreen diversity but when in power they do a better job of projecting black men as suitable love interests for a white female star than black men or women in similar positions ever do. Hell, white guys do a better job at this too.

I recall the shit that Bullock took on these boards as an actress who was a mainstream movie version of a dodger because of some flimsy evidence that she avoided starring opposite black men as love interests. Hmmmm. Either she "evolved" or the people making those assertions were as foolish as I called them out for all those years ago.
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You can't generalize white women. Specific white women have been pointed out and specific white women have been praised.

And why put quotations around evolve? People do evolve, change. Very few people stay the same people they were years ago or whatever.

She could've very well changed. We honestly don't know I have never heard of Sandra Bullock being such thing.

But she could have been and CHANGED her life and perspective. Because it happens, people do grow. Humans do make changes in their life. People do that. So it's not out of the realm of possibility. Can't render people foolish if they were right.

Sarah Silverman once dawned blackface and made some HARSH racial jokes about black people and says she has changed and regret all of that. Maybe she changed or maybe she playing to PC culture not to take her down. We don't know but we do know is she said she has grown and changed and that is something proven that human beings can do.
 
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Just seen Bird Box over the weekend and I enjoyed it. I like their other Big Holiday Film last year BRIGHT a little more, but this was really good as well. It is very Hitchcock like.

On the Interracial romance:
It is slow build up to Mallore and Tom being lovers. So some of you might not like that. Mallore starts off being pregnant by a guy who left her. Sarah Paulson plays her sister who goes to her Doctor visit with her. Soon after their visit that is when the crazy shit started happening of some sort of evolutionary apocalypse of these creatures that were not seen by audiences but once the people in the movie seen the creatures it made them go psychotic as fuck, suicidal and homicidal. Tom helps a pregnant Mallore during the events and they along with other people wind up taking refuge in a Disgruntled Old man's house. They soon let in another pregnant woman. After an incident where they let one of the homicidal infected people in everyone with the exception of those that ran off with a car were all killed or killed themselves including the other pregnant lady. Tom and Mallore became the only two left with two babies to raise over the next five years. That is when the flirting ends and they became a couple with two kids. They fastforward of course five years later so the romance that we see is short, but sweet. While on the run scavaging secluded houses for supplies and food with the kids(sidenote: they had to go outside blindfolded to avoid seeing those creatures.) some of the homicidal people rode up to the house. To avoid them being killed Tom created a diversion for Mallore and the kids to escape while he took out the invaders and unfortunately had to sacrifice himself. If you don't like that just a reminder that it was well written and they did not make his character useless. He was special to Mallore and they displayed it well. So the romance is short and bitter-sweet but very well done.

And there is a short lovemaking scene that wasn't graphic, but romantic.
 
darkcurry said:
Just seen Bird Box over the weekend and I enjoyed it. I like their other Big Holiday Film last year BRIGHT a little more, but this was really good as well. It is very Hitchcock like.
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"Bird Box" was the #1 trending topic on Twitter for several hours on Friday night-Early Saturday Overnight morning, I guess should check it out tonight.
 
darkcurry said:
Just seen Bird Box over the weekend and I enjoyed it. I like their other Big Holiday Film last year BRIGHT a little more, but this was really good as well. It is very Hitchcock like.

On the Interracial romance:
It is slow build up to Mallore and Tom being lovers. So some of you might not like that. Mallore starts off being pregnant by a guy who left her. Sarah Paulson plays her sister who goes to her Doctor visit with her. Soon after their visit that is when the crazy shit started happening of some sort of evolutionary apocalypse of these creatures that were not seen by audiences but once the people in the movie seen the creatures it made them go psychotic as fuck, suicidal and homicidal. Tom helps a pregnant Mallore during the events and they along with other people wind up taking refuge in a Disgruntled Old man's house. They soon let in another pregnant woman. After an incident where they let one of the homicidal infected people in everyone with the exception of those that ran off with a car were all killed or killed themselves including the other pregnant lady. Tom and Mallore became the only two left with two babies to raise over the next five years. That is when the flirting ends and they became a couple with two kids. They fastforward of course five years later so the romance that we see is short, but sweet. While on the run scavaging secluded houses for supplies and food with the kids(sidenote: they had to go outside blindfolded to avoid seeing those creatures.) some of the homicidal people rode up to the house. To avoid them being killed Tom created a diversion for Mallore and the kids to escape while he took out the invaders and unfortunately had to sacrifice himself. If you don't like that just a reminder that it was well written and they did not make his character useless. He was special to Mallore and they displayed it well. So the romance is short and bitter-sweet but very well done.

And there is a short lovemaking scene that wasn't graphic, but romantic.
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Lol! I don't know if that was directed at me, but slow builds aren't a problem (at least to me) in movies. Movies only last a couple of hours, not years lol. A movie slow build can be great.
 
qaz1 said:
Lol! I don't know if that was directed at me, but slow builds aren't a problem (at least to me) in movies. Movies only last a couple of hours, not years lol. A movie slow build can be great.
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Not directed at specifically you there are others like that on this forum, but it was totally non-aggressive. Just letting folks who would want to know and maybe check it out since it is written well. That's what matters to at least me. :)
 
darkcurry said:
Not directed at specifically you there are others like that on this forum, but it was totally non-aggressive. Just letting folks who would want to know and maybe check it out since it is written well. That's what matters to at least me. :)
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Appreciate ya. I didn't think it was meant aggressively. Just having fun with it
 
ColiBreh1 said:
"Bird Box" was the #1 trending topic on Twitter for several hours on Friday night-Early Saturday Overnight morning, I guess should check it out tonight.
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It's Trending number 1 again this morning. Unaware for how long since I was asleep earlier. But that and Sandra's Character Malorie and Tom are in the top trends. People really like this movie. I thought it was real good too. I didn't expect people to be this excited over it. lol.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/BirdBoxNetflix?src=tren

Very few quarrels about the IR love story they built which is even more awesome in terms of progress.
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darkcurry said:
It's Trending number 1 again this morning. Unaware for how long since I was asleep earlier. But that and Sandra's Character Malorie and Tom are in the top trends. People really like this movie. I thought it was real good too. I didn't expect people to be this excited over it. lol.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/BirdBoxNetflix?src=tren

Very few quarrels about the IR love story they built which is even more awesome in terms of progress.
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Encouraging news. I'll have to check it out this week
 
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