Do white women prefer black men when they are older?

goodlove8 said:
Another thing about the "tier" , some women that aren't like amber rose but str8 women sometime don't want a relationship but just have a dude that wants the can have just sex with. They call him "their friend". Fwb. ... Heard of that. Friends with benefits. So how are you manipulating them. If you're str8 up about your shit tgen they are cool with it.

You don't have to lie . You would be shocked at them being cool with it. Just say I'm not looking for a relationship now.

I never said "not follow your instinct. "

As far as the book ...you told a different story awhile back. You said things didn't work out.

The reason I told you to wait on the book because from what I remember you guys dated for about a month or two and the book was about 100-200. I said the idea was cool but just wait for a second . I also remember saying you are with her but just the little info I have tells me to wait. You came back later and said things didn't work out.

You asked . If you had to ask us then maybe you had some serious doubt about her. If there was no doubt then you would not had to ask.

I told you no for being concerned about you. Just because someone says no doesn't mean they hate you. A real friend will tell you "no."
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No he didn't. He said it did work. Maybe you misread things.

As far as your comments to me. I wasn't mad at all. You really don't need to read inflection into things.

Maybe you aren't aware of how you are coming across. You do make it sound like you have this specific system, the woman has to prove her worth and "earn it" and so forth. You've said things about how you won't take her to lunch/dinner until you've hit it a few times and you've decided she has "earned it" You talk about handing down wisdom (although it wasn't asked for). You started a thread about men not getting tricked. Maybe you put lol after your happy meal stuff, but you say it often too. It's about the way you talk about women. Take responsibility for what you put out there. TDK said it right when he said the whole conquering thing.

I get you and others have a big concern about "gold diggers", but come on really - any real gold digger is going to be going after men who have the real gold and the men they get with are setting up the exchange exactly the way they want. No one is playing anyone....they both know what's up. It's a business deal.

The bottom line is that no one has advocated (wanting or expecting) spending a bunch of money on someone you just met. If they feel like doing that, so what. Sometimes a man has an event he's going to and wants a woman to go with him. Or maybe he really wants to go to something and he likes her company (even right of) enough that he wants to take her and he's comfortable with spending the money. That doesn't mean he's being played.

Relax.
 
K said:
I think his question is valid GL.

Why is it you continue to bring this up? Over and over, thread after thread. Give it a rest.

You seem to have a really tough time staying on topic. The odd part about it is that it's often topics YOU start.
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He comes into these battles trying to win some imaginary prize that only he wants. I seriously don't get him.
 
The Dark King said:
He comes into these battles trying to win some imaginary prize that only he wants. I seriously don't get him.
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Yah I know.

A couple of others have pointed out the craziness.

I keep trying, thinking something will click....one of my negative patterns. It's pointless really. Tough to come to understanding with someone who's hell bent on battling.
 
The Dark King said:
That's why I usually challenge the stuff Goodlove writes, younger eyes are watching. I wasted so many good years trying to live up to ideals that were never mine to begin with. This supposed "macking notes" approach doesn't work for me and honestly I'd like to see the kind of relationships it does work in. If I have to manipulate you to be around you then we aren't suppose to be with each other. I prefer not to treat my significant other as an enemy in need of conquering. I also recognize its up to me to pick partners like that instead of trying to approach every situation like its suppose to work.
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The Dark King said:
He comes into these battles trying to win some imaginary prize that only he wants. I seriously don't get him.
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This is what you said . Like you trying to save someone.

@k this is why i brought it up.

Look at the "valid" question again but make sure you read everything.
 
goodlove8 said:
Enough said

www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showpost.php?p=997446&postcount=1615
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Dammit Goodlove we just talked about this

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K said:
This is why it's important to choose wisely and trust your instincts. It takes some time and it's not always right on. Maybe you need to talk to them a bit more up front and get a better idea of who they really are. I look at the ones that don't go well as learning experiences. But to get upset that you spent money to go out, to me that's just silly. Then you shouldn't be spending money you don't have, or you don't feel comfortable spending.

Again, this is why I think people should stick to doing things they would normally do (whether or not that person is with them) then it's not a big thing if it doesn't work out.

GL wants to argue but no one's on here promoting spending a bunch of money on dates.
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This thread or this part of it is interesting, all good points, my take; I would never feel entitled or just expect someone, (a guy) to drop a bunch of money on me, or feel entitled, on a first date, they are essentially a stranger that you are getting to know, so if someone took me out for food, I would be very appreciative. They are a new person in my life taking their time out, (people have very busy lives now) and spending money on me.

On the other hand, if I get a feeling that they are definitely expecting something in return; like sex right away, or something else, this would make me uneasy.

If a guy decides he will spend x amount of money only at certain times, or do certain things at certain times, ok, but to expecting something in return, without making some kind of agreement with me beforehand, is like making a one sided agreement. If a guy does not want to spend money on me, fine, don't do it begrudgingly, expecting immediate sex or some kind of control over me, or something, in return, this will make me back away/very nervous. I do not want to be treated like some dumb child that needs discipline, or feel like I have been "bought" or paid for.

I would think in a more progressive society, with more educated attitudes about sex, that people do not have to beat around the bush with dinners, money, back and forth and such, if they just want to get it on, they should be able to just say so to one another, and have a good time, or at least be able to discuss this (how it will work out) before in the date before too much or any money is spent, depending on the values of the two individuals involved. Also, if they want to do dinners too that is ok.:cool:

I hope I make sense here, and no offense to anyone.
 
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missshyness said:
I do not want to be treated like some dumb child that needs discipline, or feel like I have been "bought" or paid for.
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Agreed. Based on this and other threads about this topic, no one on here expects (or even wants) anyone to be spending a bunch of money just because they are going out. Not sure what the need to school people is, given that no one has been on here complaining about feeling like they are getting taken by women, or anything like that.

I'm more interested in being with a man who isn't so calculated that he's just putting me into some sort of system he has. I've gone out with men who are like that...once. There's something very off putting in their approach and attitude about women and I'm not really into dealing with men who have unresolved issues about past relationships or women in general. I realize there are women like that too. They have some sort of set up about what they will do on each date, etc. I'd just like things to be more individualized and go with what I feel makes sense at the time with that particular person.
 
K said:
Agreed. Based on this and other threads about this topic, no one on here expects (or even wants) anyone to be spending a bunch of money just because they are going out. Not sure what the need to school people is, given that no one has been on here complaining about feeling like they are getting taken by women, or anything like that.

I'm more interested in being with a man who isn't so calculated that he's just putting me into some sort of system he has. I've gone out with men who are like that...once. There's something very off putting in their approach and attitude about women and I'm not really into dealing with men who have unresolved issues about past relationships or women in general. I realize there are women like that too. They have some sort of set up about what they will do on each date, etc. I'd just like things to be more individualized and go with what I feel makes sense at the time with that particular person.
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It wasn't about schooling , it was philosophy. He asked I told.


I also said why. One of which I said that both will not feel pressured.

She may feel like if he's spending all this money he may expect some ass.
 
K said:
Agreed. Based on this and other threads about this topic, no one on here expects (or even wants) anyone to be spending a bunch of money just because they are going out. Not sure what the need to school people is, given that no one has been on here complaining about feeling like they are getting taken by women, or anything like that.

I'm more interested in being with a man who isn't so calculated that he's just putting me into some sort of system he has. I've gone out with men who are like that...once. There's something very off putting in their approach and attitude about women and I'm not really into dealing with men who have unresolved issues about past relationships or women in general. I realize there are women like that too. They have some sort of set up about what they will do on each date, etc. I'd just like things to be more individualized and go with what I feel makes sense at the time with that particular person.
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As far as system , there isn't one. If you go back and read I said women need to earn their position. You aren't going to marry a man just cause he look good and have a nice car....right?


When you see a person , good or bad, you prejudge. Amber rose , as I stated, will not be my wife. I'll have her as a booty call but not a gf or a wife. That would be foolish to put her in the gf or wife position.

Would you marry a male porn star?
 
K said:
Agreed. Based on this and other threads about this topic, no one on here expects (or even wants) anyone to be spending a bunch of money just because they are going out. Not sure what the need to school people is, given that no one has been on here complaining about feeling like they are getting taken by women, or anything like that.

I'm more interested in being with a man who isn't so calculated that he's just putting me into some sort of system he has. I've gone out with men who are like that...once. There's something very off putting in their approach and attitude about women and I'm not really into dealing with men who have unresolved issues about past relationships or women in general. I realize there are women like that too. They have some sort of set up about what they will do on each date, etc. I'd just like things to be more individualized and go with what I feel makes sense at the time with that particular person.
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It's really more about an age thing or stage of life thing because from what I've seen there is a high level of expectation from women of a certain age. They are placing a great deal of their hopes and wishes on feeling like a princess. Men hoping for sex as payment for meals is really a young thing, grown men aren't THAT horny. It's all the expectations a lot of women have that make the experience annoying especially knowing that most of the burden falls on the man. Women in general are not that charming, they don't use charm to get men, and the financial responsibility is squarely on the man. So in most dating situations men are constantly auditioning, you may not see it because it doesn't fall on you.
 
K said:
Agreed. Based on this and other threads about this topic, no one on here expects (or even wants) anyone to be spending a bunch of money just because they are going out. Not sure what the need to school people is, given that no one has been on here complaining about feeling like they are getting taken by women, or anything like that.

I'm more interested in being with a man who isn't so calculated that he's just putting me into some sort of system he has. I've gone out with men who are like that...once. There's something very off putting in their approach and attitude about women and I'm not really into dealing with men who have unresolved issues about past relationships or women in general. I realize there are women like that too. They have some sort of set up about what they will do on each date, etc. I'd just like things to be more individualized and go with what I feel makes sense at the time with that particular person.
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Lastly, you learn from your past relationships. You learn what you did wrong and learn the signs of craziness that a person gives.

If a person tells you they are crazy.....listen to them.


There's a difference between being bitter and learning and being smart about who you date. Bitter people hold accountable everyone.....smart people look for the signs of crazy and avoid them
 
The Dark King said:
It's really more about an age thing or stage of life thing because from what I've seen there is a high level of expectation from women of a certain age. They are placing a great deal of their hopes and wishes on feeling like a princess. Men hoping for sex as payment for meals is really a young thing, grown men aren't THAT horny. It's all the expectations a lot of women have that make the experience annoying especially knowing that most of the burden falls on the man. Women in general are not that charming, they don't use charm to get men, and the financial responsibility is squarely on the man. So in most dating situations men are constantly auditioning, you may not see it because it doesn't fall on you.
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More like queens. Lol

Also on the audition part is true but afterwards my mentality is what is she bringing to the table besides her tits and ass
 
goodlove8 said:
As far as system , there isn't one. If you go back and read I said women need to earn their position. You aren't going to marry a man just cause he look good and have a nice car....right?


When you see a person , good or bad, you prejudge. Amber rose , as I stated, will not be my wife. I'll have her as a booty call but not a gf or a wife. That would be foolish to put her in the gf or wife position.

Would you marry a male porn star?
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I read what you said. You have a consistent attitude that comes through over and over on threads you post. I try to think that it may be more about the terms you use that are so off putting. But it really seems to be more the overall attitude you express towards women.

I didn't know Amber Rose was a porn star (since you are equating her to a male porn star). I've never met a male porn star, to my knowledge, so I couldn't really answer that question. I have dated/been involved with men who had high profiles and who probably had a high count of women in their past.
 
goodlove8 said:
Lastly, you learn from your past relationships. You learn what you did wrong and learn the signs of craziness that a person gives.

If a person tells you they are crazy.....listen to them.


There's a difference between being bitter and learning and being smart about who you date. Bitter people hold accountable everyone.....smart people look for the signs of crazy and avoid them
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this I agree with

Whatever they are telling you about themselves, believe them.

Maybe you don't realize that the way you come across is more on the bitter side. That you do things a certain way with women(and recommend the same to everyone else).
 
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