Why Are White Women Obsessed With Weight?

Yeah definatley sardonic, you totally hear what I am saying. You are right, my post initially (and still are) was a little self-absorbed. I more used arrogant 'cos it seemed what sengo was implying.

It is obviously a touchy subject for both of us!!! Because perhaps sengo has been a 'victim' or is sick of those types of women, and I am sick of people inferring automatically, without knowing anything about me personally, that I am one

Sengo bud I think we are actually coming from the same place, but you got me pegged wrong.

PHew! No more on this topic, let's talk about something fun, or....the TOPIC of the thread.

Jump in guys!

 

MAN, you are JUST FULL OF IT.

arrogantly, you single out black men, then you back track, then back track even more, and now you actually have the nerve to talk about black men who single out others. you, along with MistressB, and others, are IN FACT NO DIFFERENT from the scores of black man who makes gross and sweeping generalizations about black woman, you deserve those very BM you claim to despise.

a WW who truly dates across the board does not make SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS about WHICH MEN approach her more and which ones doesn't, ESPECIALLY when she doesn't take in account how the way she CHOOSES to look or acts and equally importantly *who she associates with* or *where she lives* and how all that attracts certain type of MEN.

 

FINALLY, A MAN WHO EXPOSES THE HYPOCRISY OF WW WHO 'DATE' BM BESIDES ME...... Thank you sir!

 

Go on Sengo, do enlighten me how the way I choose to

- look (usually dressed in jeans, very little makeup, and casual hair),
- or act (mostly very antisocially in public, except when talking with friends)
- and who I associate with (mostly white people, since there are a very small number of black people on my course, except when I am with my boyfriend, when surprisingly, NO men will approach me!!)

will mean that I seem to have more black men than white men approach me?

This is far from a sweeping generalisation, which you will see from all my other posts that I avoid as far as possible, but the simple fact from my own observation and experiences. Moreover, if you asked any of my friends they would laugh and tell you how they have commented more than once on the very same thing.

 

LOOK, you are entitled to what ever generalisation you want about the unfortunate, unsuspecting black man who comes by you, whether you validate your generalisation through experience (clearly lacking the right insight), observation, or validation of your peer.

SO KINDLY refrain from attacking black man who make equally insidious, potentially damgaging and offensive conclusion about black woman, especially when they have the same backup as you - experience (lacking interpretation), observation, and also the validation of his peer, too..

You guys see, this why a Black man need to know which white woman date black. Not just to approach (like certain woman think) but to straight out avoid! Would any black man in his right frame of thought want any woman who says ALL BLACK MAN or that MORE BLACK MAN THAN WHITE approach her, especially when many who SELDOM IF EVER EVEN BEEN APPROACH by a black man got what she got, in terms of looks and personality, and EVEN WAY MORE.

 

i agree with you part of the way sir, but i dont think that is what she meant.

certainly not all women date black men for the right reasons. some are liberals and feel that is will assuage their guilt of past slavery. some will will do it because they want to get back at their fathers or white men who miss treated them. some will experiment with blacks only for sexual or stereotypical reasons. some will do it because they hate black men and want to get them in trouble.

All of the reasons above are reasons to watch out who you date for sure--but black men date white women for the wrong reasons as we have seen by many of the posters in this room in the many years, as well.

let not go throwing stones here. there is evil in all types of people, but there is good also.

there are good and well meaning white women who love black men because they love our culture, they are attracted to us as men and human beings, they enjoy the way we are(some of us). so we should be in solidarity with these women and not creating division.

yes, avoid a woman who may only like you for the experiment, but this is the main reason you dont sleep with a woman before you get to know her first and know where she is coming from.
it is common sense brotha, i know many in the younger generation dont have it, but the brothas on here understand what it is, learn from them

 

The worst kind of hypocrisy, is the hypocrite whom doesn't recognise their own hypocrisy. Its what I call "Stupidity Hypocrisy's" or "Ignorant Stupidity." The more incompetent a person is at a given skill, the less likely they are to realise it because they also lack the metacognitive skills necessary to evaluate their performance. Ignorance really is bliss, except for those who are faced with the task of trying to explain to a person, whom maybe extremely knowledgeable, that their arguments aren’t so good after all.

This is what we have with SengO versus leskie and you. He exposed your hypocrisy and now you can not handle it and refuse to see it. You defend a position simply by refusing to acknowledge the force of Sengo's argument.

For one, it is an impossibility for any of us to "ask your friends." Making that assertion the "Straw Man's" argument, which is irrelevant to the hypocrisy you display. Number two, you are misrepresenting the facts by stating which "type" of BM approaches you; I guarantee this though.....the black men who approaches you and the one you are with are not of the superlative type.

The superlative black male would be more interested in women like T2, Spellon, Misvoskca, Silvercomsa, etc.... Of course you will never be able to recognise the difference, but that is what it is......

 

This is a surreal and ridiculous discussion, and I'm surprised that Sengo and 7Seven can't see it, although tucker seems to.

By saying that, when men do come up and approach me in public, they tend to be black men rather than white men, I haven't at any point said that this is a problem in itself. I haven't said "oh god I wish these black men would stop coming up to me!" except that it is harder to be polite to strange men who talk to you, because they get the wrong idea when you have to say "oh no I have a boyfriend" - and that is just a simple fact, some people equate a woman being friendly with a woman who wants a date, when I would never have approached a random man, since I am with someone (relating equally to black and white men!)

I don't understand how my personal experience can expose my 'hypocrisy'. My mother also told me that when she was of my age, she received far more attention from black men than white men, although this has changed since she has grown older. If I was upset or annoyed about that, would I be on this website?

I don't see either, 7Seven, apart from attributing it to your general sense of misplaced superciliousness, how you can draw conclusions about the people I know, and particularly my partner. How are you supposed to know from one photograph I have posted what kind of person he happens to be? Is there something about men who approach women in public which makes them less important than you? If so, I genuinely think you should have a word with many of the men on this forum, who will also go after girls in public! Sure, many of the other women on this site are older and more sophisticated, but I don't have to prove to you that I'm also a cultured person, and have mixed with very educated people - particularly in the profession I'm going into. I would call my partner one of those people also, having a physics degree and a depth of understanding and maturity, although I currently know two men who I believe have an interest in me, whether as a person or what: one is a masters graduate from Cambridge, another has a law degree and is trying to practice in the UK. Both are cultured people, although again, I'm not sure what you mean by 'superlative', but I certainly wouldn't put yourself in that category, as to me you seem like the worst kind of fool.

I am very interested in his culture, as I was with my former boyfriend's Jamaican culture (although that was less prominent as really he grew up in the same town as me and was to all effects English). I'm equally interested in Nigerian culture, since I seem to have made a number of Nigerian friends recently. I think people like you and Sengo have the largest problems from the assumptions you can make from someone's simple comment about their own experiences, by assuming they are saying more that they are, due to your own stigmas about your colour - I can see it's possible you've experienced racism but to expect it on here from people who HAVE African/black partners...you both need to have a word.

 

:lol: Now you are making this situation about me, when its not.

Yes, continue to attack me Miss B, its what you do best. Its an unbecoming trait found when hypocrisy is exposed. You made an general statement about black men who approach you. You never implied what quality of black male it was.

Do you want my honest opinion of your bloke's appearance and yours!? Which then I can deduce is value realistically!? You have given us enough information about yourself and your bloke to draw solid conclusions already. There are many factors which equate a male being superlative a.k.a Alpha!

Of course, this is not about me not approaching women in public, quite frankly, I do not need to approach women, they find their way to me and I prefer it that way. I am not the type that "dreams" of getting the "hot chick" or constantly post about beautiful women, or day dream about visiting Scandinavian countries :lol: Or some other pretentious bull shit going around here. Superlative black males do not need to "dream" its already reality for them.

 

It's odd how the both of you are agreeing about the way Interracial Relationships should be, but still bicker back and forth like kids. :roll:

 

You'd think that this will ring a bell by now, with the kind of conversations carried on in this site. I believe Sengo has had too many run-ins with those types of white women. Yes, they're out there, in fact, I can show you several websites of them, but nonetheless, they don't represent all white women who date and marry black men. If so, then Interracial Relationships would be MORE controversial then they already are, and eventually, impossible to be in, and not worth the time.

Being married yourself like Chocolusicious, you would have to know all of that. If this website only revolved around 'booty calls' then what would be the point of any of these conversations we have in here? Though I get what Sengo is saying, I still think that his rant is misdirected. No one can control who approaches them or how often a certain demographic of people do. If I were to say that more white women approach me than black women(they really do) would that mean that I'm a racist, or a sell-out, who's only after white 'punani', because I know I can get it? Well, just like anyone else (white female, black male, whoever, etc.) it would all depend on the person, and the intentions they had from the start to go everywhere and do anything. Nothing ever comes to you that you don't look for yourself in life, even unintentionally, otherwise, you wouldn't get it.

 

the problem isn't these white women fantasy world where it's mostly black man approach them out of the blue, even in a 99.9999% white town, the whole time they are free to completely ignore, misinterpret or downplay environment and their own attitudes, actions, and behavior that causes black man to approach her...

the real problem is when people like her want to attack black man for their experiences with others (black woman) no matter how fantastic, childish and simplistic their observation, **as hers are** about black men, they have as much entitelement (by experience, observation, validation of peers) to their generalisations as she does about a entire black male demographic...

so lets break it down...

white woman says

"more black guy give me that "look" than white"
"black guys hit on me more than white"
"my mother and sister and friend had the same experience with black men"

VERSUS

black man says

"more black woman than white act all sassy and have attitude"
"more black woman than white don't find me attractive"
"my brother my male friends have the same experience with black woman"

IS ALL ONE IN THE DAMN SAME..... SO GIVE IT UP

 

Maybe she didn't tell you what types do approach her because she isn't interested in all of them.

Ha ha, then you shouldn't be projecting again, if you're right. :lol:

No, we do not need to dream , but what about the ones who do?

Now, when you agreed with Sengo, you launched an attack on MissB about her hypocrisy, when you, yourself, sleep with all of these feminazis and psycho bitches you constantly rant about, who only want to control and dominate you primarily for the sex. :lol:

And, as for 'pretentious bullshit' going around in here, well, I think your posts speak for themselves on that. :lol:

 

You raise a VERY good point, but this is not what the discussion is about, futhermore, she wasn't attacking black men about their experiences with angry black women, and so on. All she said was that she didn't want to be in a relationship with a black man who has a bitter outlook on all black women, not black men who prefer white women.

 

what tucker says doesn't address what 7Seven says is the hypocrisy these white woman have --

they are entitled to their simple minded generalisation about black man approaching them, fine, but they don't believe a black man is entitled to his simple minded generalisation about others, namely black woman.

and contrary, most people control to **a point** who attracts to them, it's a matter of how they dress, carry themself, the vibe they give off, where they live, they associate, and how close they are to other areas, and countless other factors they may or may not be aware of.

the way these white women describe all these black men approaching them sounds like an affliction or some curse that they've learn to accept or use to their advantage. to me, they're no different than the white woman who don't date black and still say the same nonsense about more black men than white.

and even if these white woman have no control, and out of the magical blue, it's only black man who approach, then it follows the black man who say all this jazz about black woman not liking them so they go after white woman, or they only want players.... he has no control either about black woman... so the way i see it they're made for each other....

 

Actually, it does, if you read between the lines of his message.

Well, for one thing, I and other black men have debated this with the white women in here several times before, so like I said, you raise a valid point, but your rant is misdirected, meaning that you directed it at someone who doesn't seem to fit into that clique of white women.

You're right, but what I meant is that no one has COMPLETE control over their experiences in life. Maybe to some extent as you stated, but certainly not as a whole. If we did, then the world wouldn't be faced with such problems as AIDS, Terrorism, Racism, Cannibalism, Pedophilia, etc., I could go on and on, but for the most part, you're right.

I understand that, but like I said to her, even though her message came off a bit self-absorbed (I've seen much worse in here) I don't think that was her intention.

You're an intelligent man, but like I said, you misunderstood her.

 

:lol: Do not accuse of of being lazy...:lol: My talk about feminazi's are not about all white women, clearly, there is a difference between the two, and I state there is a difference. Also, I was only defending Sengo very logical point, because the rest of the black men here are too worried and chicken shit to tell it like it is. Take a look at these women SD -- all these women who claim to get hit on by only black men and never white men, have the Ugly Duckling Syndrome. If you look at them they are not attractive and not what superlative black males are looking for, which promotes the hypocrisy they wish to fight against.

 

When did I say that I have never had white men show an interest in me? Equally, since when did an observation that more black men than white men (strangers) will approach me amount to a criticism of black men in the same way as rants such as "black women are so sassy...oh boo hoo they make me feel so much less of a man...". There isn't a bit of an element of 'getting something out of it', I don't sit and objectively assess my own attractiveness (which is a subjective notion anyway), and who is or isn't attracted to me is by the by, it doesn't add to or detract from my own sense of self, but on the other hand it is flattering if they want to say something nice or to have a chat. I couldn't tell you what "kind" of men these are, mostly contact never progresses beyond one simple chat, in which I'm friendly, and I don't 'use' any kind of men for any casual sexual encounters, be they black white green or blue.

I appreciate Sardonic coming in here and trying to clarify (thanks!) because I'm genuinely hurt that someone feels that there could be an ulterior motive, arrogance or malevolence in something which is a simple statement of fact from my own experience. If anyone should be castigated for their own arrogance, carelessness, assumptions and behaviour with the opposite sex, it is yourself, 7Seven!

Something which lastly springs to mind is that there is no such thing as "superlative black males". There is no objective criteria by which you can say that one person is superlative, or better than others...is it their experience, their intelligence on paper, their ability to use long words...or is it values which I hold precious: someone's humility, their care and attention for other people, their ability to converse, their good sense. You are obviously placing yourself within this category of superlative males without taking a look around at all the other good qualities which you might possess and don't, which is a type of pathetic, wilful blindness.

 

YOU SAID IT!

These white woman are no more different than these black guys who say black woman called them names or never paid attention to them, or passed them up for gangster.

I strongly suspect that these white girl have repressed envy/bitterness toward white men as these "ugly duckling syndrome" black man do to black woman.... especially when the white man calls them nasty femnist and gets chased away to a third world country to hit on poor brown girl.

 

:lol: There are common traits amongst men who share the same qualities that can be classified as superlative black or white. There is obviously a difference, but with your magic words like "subjective" you subconsciously tell yourself this isn't true. Its a feel good principle by the id. Women will obviously gravitate towards a more domineering presence, and the most attractive women will snag him, you can not disprove this fact with your experiences because its does not apply to the majority.

If you can not snag the attractive alpha white male as an white women, you will look in another category -- this being black men, because he is next on the food chain. Its simple biology and I do not feel like explaining it again, check my Ugly Duckling Syndrome thread.