both of the hadid sisters supposedly dating black men

orejon4 said:
I would think she's anything from African-American to Latina to North African to biracial to East African to Yemeni or anything in between. I would have to hear her talk and hear her name before I know more. I would never think she was European white, though.
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goodlove said:
the key part of the convo is about her "passing".

im saying she cant "pass" for......white (european)or middle eastern.

1. lets define pass and

2. how it pschologically works.

for me its automatically classifying soneone u see based on their characteristics.

meaning if im walking down the street and i see vanessa williams....then u automatically believe she is what?
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The Dark King said:
I said she can pass for certain types of Europeans. Don't be mad Twan lol
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i said she cant ...uncle ruckus

i said no way she will pass for white...latino maybe...not white.

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KinCA said:
sorta like....anyone who is not obviously 100% white is black??
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Kind of
I was,leaning more towards ethic whites being "white"
I know "black" people who are lighter than man many Turks, Greeks, Italians etc but they're black. So maybe since he's in the south where there are usually wasps his idea of whiteness is different
 
The Dark King said:
Kind of
I was,leaning more towards ethic whites being "white"
I know "black" people who are lighter than man many Turks, Greeks, Italians etc but they're black. So maybe since he's in the south where there are usually wasps his idea of whiteness is different
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It can be really different in different areas for sure.

(I just learned that ethnic may equate to racial ambiguity)
 
KinCA said:
sorta like....anyone who is not obviously 100% white is black??
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u cant read.....i said for the millionth time. she look black ....she may pass for latino....

The Dark King said:
Kind of
I was,leaning more towards ethic whites being "white"
I know "black" people who are lighter than man many Turks, Greeks, Italians etc but they're black. So maybe since he's in the south where there are usually wasps his idea of whiteness is different
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if i said she can pass for latino...that means ive been around latinos ....here in the south too.
 
KinCA said:
It can be really different in different areas for sure.

(I just learned that ethnic may equate to racial ambiguity)
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the difference as far as regions and experience is the level of racism and other demographic(eg...stop and frisk...thats up north. arabs and africans and hatians they are big here. seventh day adventist are big in the south)

koreans and other asians live here . its very diverse.

oh btw....a slew of people in this thread said shes black ...no pass...i guess all that disagree with u lives in the south
 
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goodlove said:
u cant read.....i said for the millionth time. she look black ....she may pass for latino....



if i said she can pass for latino...that means ive been around latinos ....here in the south too.
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You know what - you don't have to be so damn rude. I wasn't talking to you. I clearly copied TDK asked him because I was trying to understand what HE was saying.

I get you think she looks black and no one would ever think she was anything else (other than Latino). Doesn't mean you are right.....it just means it's your opinion.

There are actually other people in this forum who have opinions and have something to say. And guess what, they are just as valid as you are.
 
KinCA said:
You know what - you don't have to be so damn rude. I wasn't talking to you. I clearly copied TDK asked him because I was trying to understand what HE was saying.

I get you think she looks black and no one would ever think she was anything else (other than Latino). Doesn't mean you are right.....it just means it's your opinion.

There are actually other people in this forum who have opinions and have something to say. And guess what, they are just as valid as you are.
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KinCA said:
You know what - you don't have to be so damn rude. I wasn't talking to you. I clearly copied TDK asked him because I was trying to understand what HE was saying.

I get you think she looks black and no one would ever think she was anything else (other than Latino). Doesn't mean you are right.....it just means it's your opinion.

There are actually other people in this forum who have opinions and have something to say. And guess what, they are just as valid as you are.
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goodlove said:
the difference as far as regions and experience is the level of racism and other demographic(eg...stop and frisk...thats up north. arabs and africans and hatians they are big here. seventh day adventist are big in the south)

koreans and other asians live here . its very diverse.

oh btw....a slew of people in this thread said shes black ...no pass...i guess all that disagree with u lives in the south
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Really?

I would never claim to know what it is like to be a Black man anywhere. I do know what it's like to be an "ethnic" woman in all sorts of areas in the US and Europe. I have experienced being thought to be all sorts of different ethnicity and expected to understand/speak many different languages. Do you? How about I won't claim to know what it is for Black men and you don't claim to know what it is for others who may be looked at as different ethnicities? Just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen for others. Clearly on this very thread people started off by asking if those men pictured are actually Black.

You don't have a clue what I think as far as her or anyone else goes. I said my friend always thought she was white, I didn't say that. Personally, I think she looks like she could be many different things. Which of course does NOT agree with your opinion...so what.

Do you actually know what Vanessa Williams (or anyone else) has really been mistaken for?
 
goodlove said:
lol....dude who think vanessa william can pass for white....is crazy......
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It's not funny when you lie about what I said,, I said she can pass for a lot off races not one fucking time i said white, now how i grew up Google Scarborough community in oak ridge tn born and raised , got nothing to hide , the hell I even say make such shit fly out of your mouth that I was raised privileged, simple ass back on ignore
 
free816 said:
It's not funny when you lie about what I said,, I said she can pass for a lot off races not one fucking time i said white, now how i grew up Google Scarborough community in oak ridge tn born and raised , got nothing to hide , the hell I even say make such shit fly out of your mouth that I was raised privileged, simple ass back on ignore
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