Why Are White Women Obsessed With Weight?

[SardonicGenie]

:lol: Do not accuse of of being lazy...:lol: My talk about feminazi's are not about all white women, clearly, there is a difference between the two, and I state there is a difference. Also, I was only defending Sengo very logical point, because the rest of the black men here are too worried and chicken shit to tell it like it is. Take a look at these women SD -- all these women who claim to get hit on by only black men and never white men, have the Ugly Duckling Syndrome. If you look at them they are not attractive and not what superlative black males are looking for, which promotes the hypocrisy they wish to fight against.

OK, I see what you're saying, but if you recall, I was one of the ones who defended your thread about the Ugly Duckling Syndrome, but how do we know whether or not this applies to leksie? She's from Australia (for one thing) she's also stated that she doesn't see herself as 'god's gift to black men' or somethin' and she hasn't flamed Sengo in a feminist, stereotypical rant about black men/women this and white men/women that, like your buddy 'Free/snowbunny' did before (I'm sure you remember her don't you?) and you would have to conclude that SHE was an Ugly Duckling of the worst kind.

 

[SardonicGenie]

And, as a side note, I don't see you as a lazy person, and although I agree with you about Sengo's points, I don't agree with you or him about them in regards to leksie. That's what I 've been saying.

No offense MissB, but we aren't necessarily talking about you here, so don't take it that way.

 

[SardonicGenie]

Take a look at these women SD -- all these women who claim to get hit on by only black men and never white men, have the Ugly Duckling Syndrome. If you look at them they are not attractive and not what superlative black males are looking for, which promotes the hypocrisy they wish to fight against.

YOU SAID IT!

These white woman are no more different than these black guys who say black woman called them names or never paid attention to them, or passed them up for gangster.

I strongly suspect that these white girl have repressed envy/bitterness toward white men as these "ugly duckling syndrome" black man do to black woman.... especially when the white man calls them nasty femnist and gets chased away to a third world country to hit on poor brown girl.

I did agree with you about this, but...

I'll state it again in different words. You are jumping to conclusions about what leksie said. And, as for MissB, well, she's a lil' miss devil's adovcate anyway :wink:, so don't worry about her.

 

[SENGO_G]

... what i said is in general terms, it could apply to her, maybe it couldn't, fact remains white woman is not exempt from being bitter or ambivalents towards white man, no matter how much they project onto others, no race is exempt from bad feelings towards the opposite gender their own race... but you never hear about black man not wanting to date a white woman who is bitter or resentful to white men, or maybe men in general...

 

[SardonicGenie]

... what i said is in general terms, it could apply to her, maybe it couldn't, fact remains white woman is not exempt from being bitter or ambivalents towards white man, no matter how much they project onto others, no race is exempt from bad feelings towards the opposite gender their own race... but you never hear about black man not wanting to date a white woman who is bitter or resentful to white men, or maybe men in general...

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. You don't hear about white women being bitter towards white men, the way black women/ black men are, towards one another when typically deciding to date interracially (which is a problem in our society among OTHER things) but guess what? You don't have to hear it from them. Just take a gander at all of these feminazis in the world. Who are they predominately? Yep, you guessed it, and who do they judge ALL men by, because of what white men put them though? Yep, you guessed it again, and once again, you don't have to hear about it from them, because most of these white women(Americans) won't even bother to bring up white men, or even skin color, when ranting and whining about men in general, and because of preconceived notions of white men being some sort of Alpha/Omega male portrayed by the American media and Eurocentricism, it's highly unlikely if these same white women you speak of, will ever come to their senses about their lame projecting onto black men over and over again.

But, as far as I know, leksie doesn't fit this mold, nor does MissB, so I won't claim that they do, at least for now.

 

[MistressB]

:lol: Now you are making this situation about me, when its not.

Yes, continue to attack me Miss B, its what you do best. Its an unbecoming trait found when hypocrisy is exposed. You made an general statement about black men who approach you. You never implied what quality of black male it was.

Maybe she didn't tell you what types do approach her because she isn't interested in all of them.

Do you want my honest opinion of your bloke's appearance and yours!? Which then I can deduce is value realistically!? You have given us enough information about yourself and your bloke to draw solid conclusions already. There are many factors which equate a male being superlative a.k.a Alpha!

Of course, this is not about me not approaching women in public, quite frankly, I do not need to approach women, they find their way to me and I prefer it that way. I am not the type that "dreams" of getting the "hot chick" or constantly post about beautiful women, or day dream about visiting Scandinavian countries :lol: Or some other pretentious bull shit going around here. Superlative black males do not need to "dream" its already reality for them.

Ha ha, then you shouldn't be projecting again, if you're right. :lol:

No, we do not need to dream , but what about the ones who do?

Now, when you agreed with Sengo, you launched an attack on MissB about her hypocrisy, when you, yourself, sleep with all of these feminazis and psycho bitches you constantly rant about, who only want to control and dominate you primarily for the sex. :lol:

And, as for 'pretentious bullshit' going around in here, well, I think your post speak for themselves on that. :lol:

:lol: Do not accuse of of being lazy...:lol: My talk about feminazi's are not about all white women, clearly, there is a difference between the two, and I state there is a difference. Also, I was only defending Sengo very logical point, because the rest of the black men here are too worried and chicken shit to tell it like it is. Take a look at these women SD -- all these women who claim to get hit on by only black men and never white men, have the Ugly Duckling Syndrome. If you look at them they are not attractive and not what superlative black males are looking for, which promotes the hypocrisy they wish to fight against.

When did I say that I have never had white men show an interest in me? Equally, since when did an observation that more black men than white men (strangers) will approach me amount to a criticism of black men in the same way as rants such as "black women are so sassy...oh boo hoo they make me feel so much less of a man...". There isn't a bit of an element of 'getting something out of it', I don't sit and objectively assess my own attractiveness (which is a subjective notion anyway), and who is or isn't attracted to me is by the by, it doesn't add to or detract from my own sense of self, but on the other hand it is flattering if they want to say something nice or to have a chat. I couldn't tell you what "kind" of men these are, mostly contact never progresses beyond one simple chat, in which I'm friendly, and I don't 'use' any kind of men for any casual sexual encounters, be they black white green or blue.

I appreciate Sardonic coming in here and trying to clarify (thanks!) because I'm genuinely hurt that someone feels that there could be an ulterior motive, arrogance or malevolence in something which is a simple statement of fact from my own experience. If anyone should be castigated for their own arrogance, carelessness, assumptions and behaviour with the opposite sex, it is yourself, 7Seven!

Something which lastly springs to mind is that there is no such thing as "superlative black males". There is no objective criteria by which you can say that one person is superlative, or better than others...is it their experience, their intelligence on paper, their ability to use long words...or is it values which I hold precious: someone's humility, their care and attention for other people, their ability to converse, their good sense. You are obviously placing yourself within this category of superlative males without taking a look around at all the other good qualities which you might possess and don't, which is a type of pathetic, wilful blindness.

:lol: There are common traits amongst men who share the same qualities that can be classified as superlative black or white. There is obviously a difference, but with your magic words like "subjective" you subconsciously tell yourself this isn't true. Its a feel good principle by the id. Women will obviously gravitate towards a more domineering presence, and the most attractive women will snag him, you can not disprove this fact with your experiences because its does not apply to the majority.

If you can not snag the attractive alpha white male as an white women, you will look in another category -- this being black men, because he is next on the food chain. Its simple biology and I do not feel like explaining it again, check my Ugly Duckling Syndrome thread.

So you're just talking about alpha-males? I don't see why you need to use a whole new word to confuse matters. The logic works, except that (a) not every person in the world believes the idea of a 'hierarchy' of humans, where white comes out top, I certainly don't, although that appears to be a majority opinion of society, but was never brought up to think that way, and (b) I might actually prefer to snag the alpha black male than the alpha white male! And an alpha male is one which women will gravitate to, that's your sole criteria? On that basis, I think my boy would win through!

 

[MistressB]

Take a look at these women SD -- all these women who claim to get hit on by only black men and never white men, have the Ugly Duckling Syndrome. If you look at them they are not attractive and not what superlative black males are looking for, which promotes the hypocrisy they wish to fight against.

YOU SAID IT!

These white woman are no more different than these black guys who say black woman called them names or never paid attention to them, or passed them up for gangster.

I strongly suspect that these white girl have repressed envy/bitterness toward white men as these "ugly duckling syndrome" black man do to black woman.... especially when the white man calls them nasty femnist and gets chased away to a third world country to hit on poor brown girl.

I did agree with you about this, but...

I'll state it again in different words. You are jumping to conclusions about what leksie said. And, as for MissB, well, she's a lil' miss devil's adovcate anyway :wink:, so don't worry about her.

Hmph I wasn't devils advocating in this thread, only got involved because I thought leksie was getting a rough deal.

 

[SardonicGenie]

I know why you posted in here. I was explaining to Sengo how you like to play the devil's advocate in some of the threads since he misunderstood you and leksie.

 

[7Seven]

So you're just talking about alpha-males? I don't see why you need to use a whole new word to confuse matters. The logic works, except that (a) not every person in the world believes the idea of a 'hierarchy' of humans, where white comes out top, I certainly don't, although that appears to be a majority opinion of society, but was never brought up to think that way, and (b) I might actually prefer to snag the alpha black male than the alpha white male! And an alpha male is one which women will gravitate to, that's your sole criteria? On that basis, I think my boy would win through!

There is no difference in "superlative" and "alpha" they both connote the same thing, which is high quality. Also, I have explained in depth what constitutes an alpha male, and how other men try to emulate its functioning "Player theory" aka "Game theory" in another one of these topics, but I haven't the time to look for it.

 

[7Seven]

Here is my opinion of the "Alpha Male."

The term alpha-male has its origins in Charles Darwin's research on sexual selection. "Darwin's study of mating patterns in primates revealed that four percent of the males had sex with eighty-six percent of the females."



I had noticed this trend myself in my younger years, where for every male I knew who had a girlfriend, it seemed five or ten women would claim to have boyfriends. My conclusion was that either the women were lying (partially true) or that a small number of men were getting most of the sex (also partially true). Darwin's theory explained very clearly that for men, "sex was a matter of feast or famine." Also very true.



Darwin also states, "Alpha-males are created by the universal nature of female preferences, and by the fact that women are far more pickier than men in choosing their mates. Men wind up divided into three categories: alpha-males, who get lots of sex, beta males, who find one quality mate if they are lucky, and the remainder, who starve."



A large part of this theory involves presenting oneself as an alpha whenever possible. Confidence (attitude), decisiveness (dominance), and the use of pivots/social proof (reputation), are among the techniques players use to convey to women and society that they are alphas. In the absence of money and power, which are true alpha-male traits, wannabe alphas have developed the ability to trick women into thinking they are alphas. This has significant consequences which women need to consider when they react to what they see a man doing.

In the past, if a man was seen with a beautiful woman, odds are that he had a lot going for him. This is no longer the case, as men are using pivots specifically to create this impression. Once the impression is made, it becomes a hollow reality, as the player then acquires more women based on the false assumption that he was seducing women he was just propping up to build his rep.

Confidence used to result from actual reasons to be confident. Now, even the man with nothing to be confident over will act confident, and reap the same rewards.

Dominant males of today are usually not truly dominant, but acting that way because they are aware of the payoff for doing so. Women who do not understand this difference will wind up with fake-dominant men who will crumble at the times when truly dominant men will take charge. Hence, the WW on sex tourism seeking Black men.

The idea that one can learn to be an alpha-male is dubious at best. "At best, a man can only put on a mask and hide his true nature for a fixed period of time." As with most player techniques, the goal is immediate sex, so the mask will serve that purpose, until of course the women change the rules, which isn't likely to happen for several years at least.

 

[tuckerreed]

i dont understand why a woman is not sexy with sexy curves, its natural to me!!

but i think it is society and white men who control what is desireable around the world

 

[MistressB]

7Seven, I appreciate the effort but that quote was meaningless. You failed at any point to say what the alpha male WAS but only how men who were frauds would emulate it.

Every woman has their own idea of what an alpha male is. I happen to think that my man is not perfect, but he is definitely an alpha, regardless of what colour he is.

 

[tuckerreed]

its because you know you are fine Mistress thats why

 

[MistressB]

its because you know you are fine Mistress thats why

Thank yer honey 8) ...but I prefer not to presume!

 

[7Seven]

7Seven, I appreciate the effort but that quote was meaningless. You failed at any point to say what the alpha male WAS but only how men who were frauds would emulate it.

Every woman has their own idea of what an alpha male is. I happen to think that my man is not perfect, but he is definitely an alpha, regardless of what colour he is.

:lol: I do state what constitutes an alpha male here:

Confidence (attitude), decisiveness (dominance), and the use of pivots/social proof (reputation), are among the techniques...... use to convey to women and society that they are alphas.......money and power, which are true alpha-male traits.......

Or are you trying to redefine what is an alpha male to suit the traits found in your bloke!? But lets realise your accounts of an alpha males are emotional....

 

[tuckerreed]

ok two posts that make little sense.

Mistress? presume what? I called you fine and said you know it, whats to presume--you are too intelligent to not know what I said.


7seven:
dude, what language are you speaking, can you make a clear english sentence without trying to add words to make it sound like you are intellectual? just talk plainly and we can tell whether you are smart or not.

 

[MistressB]

7Seven, I appreciate the effort but that quote was meaningless. You failed at any point to say what the alpha male WAS but only how men who were frauds would emulate it.

Every woman has their own idea of what an alpha male is. I happen to think that my man is not perfect, but he is definitely an alpha, regardless of what colour he is.

:lol: I do state what constitutes an alpha male here:

Confidence (attitude), decisiveness (dominance), and the use of pivots/social proof (reputation), are among the techniques...... use to convey to women and society that they are alphas.......money and power, which are true alpha-male traits.......

Or are you trying to redefine what is an alpha male to suit the traits found in your bloke!? But lets realise your accounts of an alpha males are emotional....

Confidence, decisiveness (dominance), reputation, money and power?

You can't fault the first two as valuable character traits but they can also go too far, to become bossy and uncompromising, which I can't say anyone I've known finds very desirable. Reputation? Fleeting, and valueless. Money? What a shallow requirement. Power? What kind of power? Intellectual power, power in the work place, these are good. But a megalomaniac? No thank you, who wants a relationship which consists of a power struggle? I can't believe you don't think OTHER qualities constitute a real alpha male, qualities which encompass and face up to some of the problems identified in the modern world and society, even if they might be seen as 'feminine' in some way.

Tucker - sorry, I was trying to simultaneously thank you for your compliment, but not say that I thought I was something special! It was a bit awkward!

 

[7Seven]

ok two posts that make little sense.

Mistress? presume what? I called you fine and said you know it, whats to presume--you are too intelligent to not know what I said.


7seven:
dude, what language are you speaking, can you make a clear english sentence without trying to add words to make it sound like you are intellectual? just talk plainly and we can tell whether you are smart or not.

:lol: Clearly, MissB and SD have no problem deducing my posts, really, maybe you should work on YOUR English. Show me a sentence you cannot understand or ask me to explain it instead of taking shots. So lets realise this fact....I know you have little knowledge on broad concepts and it intimidates you. God is Truth correct!? and that is all you need to know correct!? so pay my post no mind.....IT IS THAT SIMPLE REALLY!

 

[MistressB]

ok two posts that make little sense.

Mistress? presume what? I called you fine and said you know it, whats to presume--you are too intelligent to not know what I said.


7seven:
dude, what language are you speaking, can you make a clear english sentence without trying to add words to make it sound like you are intellectual? just talk plainly and we can tell whether you are smart or not.

:lol: Clearly, MissB and SD have no problem deducing my posts, really, maybe you should work on YOUR English. Show me a sentence you cannot understand or ask me to explain it instead of taking shots. So lets realise this fact....I know you have little knowledge on broad concepts and it intimidates you. God is Truth correct!? and that is all you need to know correct!? so pay my post no mind.....IT IS THAT SIMPLE REALLY!

To be fair, your grammar and sentence structure is awful - but I've had to mark and comprehend the work of children in grade school, so I can decipher it just fine!

 

[tuckerreed]

good one Mistress! he tries to make himself sound like he is important and learned, but simplicity works best.

If he would just say what he means instead of trying to impress us with dictionary sentence structure, we could have a more complete discussion with him.